Robert Ryther Lord of Ryther

(between 1343 and 1348 - before 1379)
     Robert Ryther Lord of Ryther was born between 1343 and 1348. He was the son of Robert Ryther and Ann Tunstall.
     He was a minor going overseas with the Kings's licence in Oct 1363, when his guardians were appointed his attorneys.
     Robert Ryther Lord of Ryther married Margaret Tothby, daughter of Sir William Totheby, circa 1365. In the 14th century, the manor of Towthby had passed in to the Ryther family, which seems to have represented the Touthebys in the female line. Robert was appointed Commissioner in Yorkshire, between 1367 and 1370.
     Robert died before 1379. He is not listed in the 1379 poll tax for the West Riding of Yorkshire, but his married son is only an esquire at Ryther.

Child of Robert Ryther Lord of Ryther and Margaret Tothby

Sir William Ryther

(before 1360 - circa 1426)
     Sir William Ryther was born before 1360 in Yorkshire. In 1396 Sir William Ryther is described as nephew [nepos ]& heir of Sir John de Toutheby. Son & heir of Robert according to the 1491 pedigree.. He was the son of Robert Ryther Lord of Ryther and Margaret Tothby.
     Sir William Ryther married Sibyl de Aldeburgh, daughter of Sir William de Aldeburgh and Elizabeth Mowbray? - not de Lisle, circa 1379.      
Sir William Ryther paid the poll tax in 1379 in Ryther, Yorkshire. Barkeston, Rythir: Willelmus le Ryther, Esquier & uxor 6/4. He was listed as an "Esquire of the less estate".
     He joined in a Yorks recognisance in 1381; was a commissioner of inquiry there 1384 & 1390, and collector of taxes 1395 & 1398.
     He was of Ryther Castle, Lord of Scarcroft, 1392 Lord of a moiety of Harewood. He obtained Harewood by a fine (purchase) from Thomas Thwates and William Barker the connection being through his wife Sybil de Alburgh as shown by the inquisition post mortem of Robert Ryther (6 Hen VII). It mentioned that he died seised of a moiety of Harwood in tail male, by the gift of Thomas Thwates & Wm Barker, made by way of fine, with the King's licence to one William Ryther, kt. & Sibyl his wife, thereof in tail male, with remainder in default to her right heirs, he being [great grandson]. Note that the Barkers had Scarcroft before the Rythers.
     One week from St Michael, 16 Richard [II] [6 October 1392]. Parties: Robert ConestableofFlaynburgh', knight, andPeter Tillyoll', knight, querents, andWilliam de Ryther, knight, andSibel, his wife, andElizabeth, who was the wife ofBrian de Stapilton', knight, the younger, deforciants. Property: 40 marks of rent issuing from the manors of Harewod'andKerebyand 60 messuages, 20 tofts, 12 carucates of land, 100 acres of meadow, 1000 acres of meadow and 30 acres of wood inHarewod',Kereby,Carleton',Dunkesewyk'andKirkeby Orblawers.
Plea of covenant. Agreement: William and Sibel and Elizabeth have acknowledged the rent to be the right of Robert, and have rendered it to Robert and Peter in the same court, to receive each year by the hands of William and Sibel and Elizabeth and the heirs of Sibel and Elizabeth, to wit, 5 marks at the feast of St Martin, 5 marks at Christmas, 5 marks at the feast of the Purification of the Blessed Mary, 5 marks at the feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Mary, 5 marks at the feast of the Invention of the Holy Cross, 5 marks at the feast of the Nativity of St John the Baptist, 5 marks at the feast of the Assumption of the Blessed Mary and also 5 marks at the feast of St Michael, to Robert and Peter and the heirs of Robert, for ever. Robert and Peter and the heirs of Robert shall have the right to distrain. For this: Robert and Peter have given them 500 marks of silver
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     Two weeks from St Martin, 16 Richard [II] [25 November 1392].
Parties: William Gascoigne and John, his brother, clerk, querents, and [William] de Rither, knight, and Sibel, his wife, deforciants.
Property:     A moiety of 60 acres of land, of 8 acres of meadow, of 4 acres of wood and of 16 acres of pasture in Harwod', Gaukethorp' and Hederik'.
Plea of covenant.
Agreement: William de Rither and Sibel have acknowledged the moiety to be the right of William Gascoigne, as that which the same William and John have of their gift, and have remised and quitclaimed it from themselves and the heirs of Sibel to William Gascoigne and John and the heirs of William for ever.
Warranty: Warranty.
For this:William Gascoigne [and] John have given them 20 pounds sterling.
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     Sir William Ryther and Sir Bryan de Stapleton were mentioned on 18 October 1393.
     Westminster. Three weeks from St Michael, 18 Richard [II] [20 October 1394].
Parties:
The prior ofBella Valleof the Carthusian order, querent, andWilliam de Ryther, knight, andSibel, his wife, deforciants.
Property: 40 shillings of rent issuing from a moiety of the manors ofKerebyandKirkeby Orblawers.
Plea of covenant.
Agreement: William and Sibel have granted to the prior the rent and have rendered it to him in the same court, to receive each year, to wit, a moiety at the feast of St Martin and the other moiety at Pentecost, by the hands of William and Sibel and the heirs of Sibel, to the prior and his successors and their church of the Holy Trinity of Bella Valle, for ever. The prior and his successors shall have the right to distrain.
For this: The prior has given them 20 pounds sterling.
Beauvale Priory(in Nottinghamshire),Kearby Town End(in Kirkby Overblow),Kirkby Overblow. Sir William Ryther was licensed for a chauntry in Alford church on 18 July 1396 in Alford, Lincolnshire. Sir William Ryther, kt. paid 20 marks to the King and power was granted to ... assign a rent .. issuing out of the manors of Toutheby and Rigsby, for a chaplain to say mass for the soul of Sir John de Toutheby, knt [who was apparently living in 1376]. Sir William Ryther is described as nephew & heir of Sir John de Toutheby. The chantry is for the soul of Sir John Toutheby, Knt. his son Robert, and his wife Joan, and for the good estate of Sir William Ryther, Knt, Joan his wife and the children of Alianore wife of Sir John de Toutheby Knt.
     Sir William Ryther was mentioned in a deed dated 1397 in Saleby, Yorkshire. William Ryther gave 20 marks for license to found a chantry in the church at Alford in Lincolnshire, for the soul of John Totheby? of Alford.
     Robert Barkeston of Barkeston & William de Ryther, knight, were both summonded at Westminster June 16, 1398 for not appearing to answer John Hyldyard, clerk, touching a debt of 20 pounds.
     One week from St Hilary, 22 Richard [II] [20 January 1399].
Parties: William Gascoigne, Richard Gascoigne and Robert Gellesthorp', chaplain, querents, and William de Ryther, knight, and Sibel, his wife, deforciants.
Property:     1 toft, 100 acres of land, 3 acres of meadow and 6 acres of wood in Harewode and a moiety of the manor of Ker[e?]by.
Action:     Plea of covenant.
Agreement: William de Ryther and Sibel have acknowledged the tenements and moiety to be the right of William Gascoigne, as those which the same William, Richard and Robert have of their gift, and have remised and quitclaimed them from themselves and the heirs of Sibel to William Gascoigne, Richard and Robert and the heirs of William for ever.
Warranty for William Gascoigne, Richard and Robert have given them 100 pounds sterling..
     Westminster. One week from St Hilary, 22 Richard [II] [20 January 1399].
Parties: William Gascoigne,Richard GascoigneandRobert Gellesthorp', chaplain, querents, andWilliam de Ryther, knight, andSibel, his wife, deforciants.
Property: 1 toft, 100 acres of land, 3 acres of meadow and 6 acres of wood inHarewodeand a moiety of the manor ofKer[e?]by.
Plea of covenant.
Agreement: William de Ryther and Sibel have acknowledged the tenements and moiety to be the right of William Gascoigne, as those which the same William, Richard and Robert have of their gift, and have remised and quitclaimed them from themselves and the heirs of Sibel to William Gascoigne, Richard and Robert and the heirs of William for ever.
For this: William Gascoigne, Richard and Robert have given them 100 pounds sterling.
     One week from Holy Trinity, 22 Richard [II] [1 June 1399].
Parties:John de Rygton', chaplain, and William Talpe, chaplain, querents, and William de Ryther, knight, and Sibel, his wife, deforciants.
Property:     1 messuage, 1 toft, 5 bovates of land, 3 acres of meadow, the works of 1 man for 30 days in Autumn, the works of 2 men at plough with 8 oxen for 9 days each year and 22 shillings of rent in Estcarleton' by Gysselay and Lofthous by Harrewode.
Action:     Plea of covenant.
Agreement: William de Ryther and Sibel have acknowledged the tenements and works to be the right of John, as those which John and William Talpe have of their gift, to hold to John and William Talpe and the heirs of John, of the chief lords for ever.
For this:     John and William Talpe have given them 100 marks of silver.. He was licensed for an oratory in his house at Towthby on 20 November 1399 in Alford, Lincolnshire. The licence was granted to Sir William Ryther, kt., and his wife to have mass said "infra manerium de Towthby".
     At Westminster. Two weeks from St Hilary, 3 Henry [IV] [27 January 1402].
Parties:     Nicholas Gascoigne, Richard Gascoigne, Robert de Gelles[thorp'], chaplain, William Scotte, Henry del Chaumbre and John del Chaumbre, querents, and William de Ryther, knight, and Sibel, his wife, deforciants.
Property:     A moiety of the manor of Kelfeld'.
Plea of covenant.
Agreement: William de Ryther and Sibel have acknowledged the moiety to be the right of Nicholas, as that which Nicholas, Richard, Robert, William Scotte, Henry and John have of their gift, and have remised and quitclaimed it from themselves and the heirs of Sibel to Nicholas, Richard, Robert, William Scotte, Henry and John and the heirs of Nicholas for ever.
Warranty.
For this:     Nicholas, Richard, Robert, William Scotte, Henry and John have given them 100 marks of silver.
     At Westminster. One week from St John the Baptist, 4 Henry [IV] [1 July 1403].
Parties: William Barker of Tadcastre and Thomas Thwaytes of Lofthous, querents, and William de Ryther, knight, and Sibel, his wife, deforciants.
Property:     A moiety of the manors of Harrewod' and Kirkebyorblawers.
Plea of covenant.
Agreement: William de Ryther and Sibel have acknowledged the moiety to be the right of William Barker, as that which the same William and Thomas have of their gift.
For this: William Barker and Thomas have granted to William de Ryther and Sibel the moiety and have rendered it to them in the same court, to hold to William de Ryther and Sibel and the male heirs of their bodies, of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, remainder to the right heirs of Sibel.
     On the 14th March 1408, there having happened a great difference between Sir William de Ryther and Sibilla his wife, he appeared before Henry Archbishop of York (then at the manor of Cawood) where he took corporal oath thenceforth to use her honestly and kindly observing certain articles (1) To do her no bodily harm or imprison her, but keep her in full freedom as a man of his degree ought to do with his wife, without doing or saying anything that may be reproof or villany to her person (2) To void Marion of Grindon out of his company and out of his children's company as long as the aforesaid Sibill lives, and to have nothing to do with the aforesaid Marion by way of sin (3) To find his wife and her maiden and her chamberer meat and drink reasonable for her estate. Witnessed by Richard Redmayne [Brother-in-law & co-occupier of Harewood Castle], Sir Henry Vavasour [manorial Lord], Henry Fitzhenry (Archbishop of York].
     Sir William Ryther was mentioned in a deed dated 1410 in Saleby, Yorkshire. In 1410 among the tenants of Thomas Colepepper, then lord of Saleby, was John de Southeby, filius Dom. William de Ryther, milit. In the previous year the same William de Ryther was fined 2d. for non-attendance at the Saleby Court Leet.
     Sir William Ryther and Sir William Ryther were mentioned in a deed dated 6 March 1415/16. On March 5 1415/6 Wm Ryther kt. senior and Wm Ryther kt. jr. witnessed a deed: By Richard Redemane, knight, and Robert Broun, chaplain to Brian de Stapilton, knight, of the manors of Querneby and Carleton by Snayth and lands and tenements in Farlyngton co. York, all of which the grantors had lately by the feoffment of the grantee. Witnesses William de Ryther, knight, the elder, William Ryther, knight, the younger, and others.
     5 September 1524: Commission to Ralph Grastock, Richard Redman, William Rither and Robert Roose, of Inghamthorpe, knights, and to John Ellerker, Guy Rocliff, William Moston and Thomas Lindleye, or any two or more of them, the four last named being of the quorum to make Inquisition in the county of Yorkshire as to lands, tenements, meadows, pastures, services, wardships, marriages & escheats alledged to have been concealed from the King within the said county.
     William died circa 1426 in Yorkshire. He was buried circa 1426 in Harewood, Yorkshire. The Ryther monument lies under the arch between the chancel and the south, or Gascoigne chapel. Each side has nine buttressed panels, five of which contain a small shield; the other four originally contained carved figures but these have all been lost. The effigies are in most respects the counterparts of those on the Redman tomb but with obvious differences in detail. Sir William's crest is the dragon's head of Ryther and his collar a plain broad band of SS. An unusual feature is the forepart of a small animal, possibly a hare, under each foot. Sir William Ryther's family came from Ryther Castle, between Selby and Tadcaster. Records show that the Ryther marriage had its difficulties and Sir William appears to have been a violent and tyrannical man; he died in about 1426 but Sybil survived him until 1440.
     Sir William Ryther was the subject of an Inquisition Post Mortem held in Yorkshire, in 1430.

Children of Sir William Ryther and Sibyl de Aldeburgh

Robert de Lisle

(20 January 1288/89 - 4 January 1343/44)
Robert De Lisle
     Robert de Lisle was born on 20 January 1288/89 in Camelton, Bedfordshire. He was born on the feast of SS Fabian & Sebastian [1291] aged 6 on next feast SS Fabian etc. [Confusion as 2 separate Inq. give conflicting dates 1288/9 & 1290/91].
21 March 1809/10 Writ giving proof of age at Bedford, 3 Edw II #229: Born at Camelton on Feast of SS Fabian & Sebastian 16 Edw I, and baptised at All Saints there on the morrow (therefore 1288/9), it also mentions his mother Alice, Rytheric de J ..., Joceline, & Andrew de Tong who had the wardship of the lands etc. of the said Robert's inheritance did not come nor oppose anything re his proof of age. He was christened on 21 January 1288/89 in All Saints, Camelton. He was the son of Warin de Lisle and Alice de Montfort. Robert de Lisle was the heir of Robert de Lisle at the Inquisition Post Mortem held on 7 December 1296. Writ 7 Dec 25 1296 Edward I: Suffolk: Inq. made at Semere on Wednesday after SS Fabian & Sebastian, Suffolk: Noddinge: The manor (extent given) held of the Bishop of Ely by service of 2 knights frees; and 4d ought to be paid yearly too the hundred of Cosford, and 3d to the parson of Bildeston. He demised the manor two years ago to Hervey de Stanton for life.
Inq. made at Fynebergh, 4 Jan 25 Edw I, 1296/7. The manor (extent given) wherof the said Warin de Insula and Alice his wife, who still survives, were enfeoffed jointly by one Nicholas de Charterey to them and the heirs of the said Warin and of the chief lords, viz. of the heirs of the Sir Robert de Mucegros, by service of a knights fee; and the said Alice remained in seisin with her husband until his death, and afterwards until the manor was taken into the King's hand. Robert his son, aged 6 years on the feast of Ss Fabian & Sebastian next, is his next heir.
Cambridge: Inq made at Cambridge on the day of St Thomas the Apostle, 25 Edw I. Rampstone. The manor (extent given) including rents at Wynepol pertaining thereto, the advowson of the church at Wynepole, and a fisher, held jointly as above, by the enfeoffment of the said Nicholas, of Geoffrey de Burdeleys by service of 1 3/4 knight's fee.
Cotenham. The manor held of the bishop of Ely by service of a moiety of a knight's fee.
Coveney with Maneye. The manor held in socage of the prior of Ely by service of 5sh. Heir as above.
Bedford: Inq. made at Sheford on Saturday after St Thomas the Apostle, 25 Edw I.
Kamelton. The manor (extent given), including 15 acres fo wood devastated in the time of the said Warin, held of the king in chief, as an escheat fo the lands etc late of the countess of Albemarle, by service of 1/2 knight's fee; and Nicholasd de Meperdeshale ought to received 2d yearly for 4 acres of meadow, and Nicholas Tuppeest (?) 2d. Heir as above, aged 6 years and more.
Writ (ad melius inquirendum) because by the previous inquisition it does not appear whether the manor of Kamelton was held of the dower of the countess of the lands late of William de Fortibus, her husband, or of the lands of her own inheritance, 25 June 25 Edw I.
Bedford: Inq. made at Sefford on Friday after Ss Peter & Paul, 25 Edw I.
Camelton. The said Warin held the manor of the escheat of the lands which were of the said countess, which she held of her own inheritance, by service of 1/2 knight's fee; and the countess held of the earl of Gloucester by the said service, as is believed, of 1/2 knight's fee
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     In 1307, writ of Richard son & heir of Adam de Stubhouse to take lands of his father who held by Knights service of the heir of Warin de Insula, now in the King's wardship 24 May 1 Edw II.
     He was found heir to Isabel, Countess of Albemarle in 1309, and Harewood and Kirkby Overblow delivered to him 1310.
The castle and manor of Rougemont in Harewood, came to the first Lord as part of his share of the ineritance of Isabel, Countess of Aumale, who had held as heiress of FitzGerald, de Curcy and Romelli
In July 1310 he obtained possession of the manors Heyford Warin and Newenham Oxon, Pysobury Herts, Harewood & Kirkby Overblow Yorks. Robert was summoned to parliament as Baron 19 Dec 1311 to 25 Feb 1342. He was the heir of Robert de Lisle at the Inquisition Post Mortem held on 13 March 1312. Isabel de Fortibus, sometime Countess of Albemarle. Writ to the escheator. Whereas before the justices of oyer and terminer it was agreed that, of the lands etc. that were of the said Isabel, the manor of Hayford Warin, co. Oxford, excepting 2 1/2 virgates land, and the manors of Passebury, co. Hertford, and Harwode & Kirkeby, co. York, excepting a messuage and 1 carucate land in Lofthous in Harewode, ought to descend to Robert de Insula, as her next heir of the inheritance of Margery, the wife of Baldwin de Vernoun, her grandmother; and that the manor of Newenham, co. Oxford, 2 1/2 virgates land in Hayford Warin, and a messuage and 1 carucate land in Lofthous, ought to descend to Hugh de Curtenay, as her next heir of the inheritance of the said Baldwin her grandfather; he is to enquire whether the advowson fo the church of Briggeham, co. Cumberland, which was of the said Isabel, pertains to the said Hugh or to the said Robert, 13 March, 5 Edw II.
Cumberland. Inq. Saturday 8 April, 5 Edw II.
Brigham. The advowson of the church is not of the inheritance of the said Baldwin nor of that of the said Margery, but one Thomas de Hothwayt who married Joan daughter of one of the heirs of John de Brigham, sometime lord of the manor and advowson of Brigha, and who, after the said Joan's death, held a moiety of the same by the courtesy of England, by fine levied before the justices of King Henry III, quitclaimed the said advowson to the said countess and heirs for ever; by reason whereof she was seised of the advowson at alternate turns, and Hugh de Curtenay who is her nearest kinsman on the side of her said grandfather, and not Robert de Insula, is her next heir of this advowson , because she thus acquired it, and by reason of the dignity of male blood
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     Robert de Lisle married Margaret de Beauchamp, daughter of Walter de Beauchamp Lord of Powke and Alice de Tosny, before 1315. A published abstract of a Cambridgeshire fine indicates that the marriage of Sir Robert de Lisle and Margaret de Beauchamp took place before 1315/16, as indicated below :
# 138c.Date: 9 Edward II [1315-1316]. Robert de Insula and Margaret his wife v. William de Risheton in Cotenham and Westwyk.
     Robertus de Ide (i.e. de Lisle) was Lord of Harwode in the wapentagium de Skyrack.
     John de Beaufou petitioned the King and council. John de Beaufou states that as the king was given to understand that Robert Peverel and Walter de Langton, formerly Bishop of Coventry and Lichfield, held of him in chief as of his crown, the king seized the body of Edmund, son and heir of Robert, and kinsman and heir of Walter, being under age, into his hand, together with his lands and tenements, and granted the keeping of the lands and the marriage of the heir to Robert del Idle (L'Isle). By virtue of this commission, Robert del Idle has seized Walter de Langton's lands in Ashley, although they are held not of the king but of John de Beaufou - as is proved by inquest returned in Chancery. John asks that the grant be repealed with regard to these tenements and the marriage of the heir, and that justice be done to him, according to the form of the inquests.
     In 1324 he held lands Berks, Cambs, Herts, Suffolk, Yorks & Beds also but he did not reside there.      
Robert de Lisle The Lay subsidy rolls in the time of Edward III (one probably in the first year of his reign lists at Harwood - Roberto de Insula at head of 5-6 others in 1326 in Harewood.
     Petitioners: Robert del Isdle (Lisle) and the men and tenants of Wharfedale.
Addressees: King and council.
Robert del Isdle and the men and tenants of Wharfedale state that they petitioned the King in the last parliament at Westminster by a petition, the transcript of which is sewn to this petition, stating that although King John, lord of the manor and forest of Knaresborough, had brought Wharfedale into that forest, when it was not of the fee or lordship of Knaresborough and had never been within forest, he was later better advised and removed it from the forest, granting the men and tenants of Wharfedale a charter to this effect, a transcript of which is sewn to this petition. But William de Ireby, Steward of Richard, Earl of Cornwall, wrongly charged the people of Wharfedale with puture of the forest and other charges and customs, and the ministers of the present King have continued to do this. This petition was answered that the charter should be examined and allowed, and that they should be quit of these charges, and writs were issued to the King's ministers to cease their demands, and other writs to the ministers of Queen Isabella, in whose hands the manor and forest are; but they continue to charge and harass the petitioners as before. They ask for a judgment that the first judgment be allowed.
Nature of endorsement: Because this thing was previously assented to and adjudged in full parliament, which is a very high judgment and made in the highest court in the land, execution is to be made of the first judgment; and the Steward and other necessary people are to be ordered to cease etc., and to allow the tenants to make their profits according to the first judgment, and not to do anything to the harm or contrary to the judgment, on pain of the appropriate penalty for those who contravene such a high judgment. And if they do not obey, a strict process is to be followed against those who are disobedient
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     In 1332 he donated to Arthington Nunnery for the good of the soul of Margaret his wife.
     Robert de Lisle was mentioned in 1334.
     In 1337 he had granted the manor of Harewood to John his younger son to enable him the better to serve the King in his wars. See Speights "Kirkby Overblow and district p.29 for the King's writs to deliver seisin to the claimants. He granted property to John de Lisle 2nd Baron in 1337 in Harewood. (10 Edw III) He was granted Harewood by his father to better serve the King: "his father Robert being disposed to give him 400 marks p.a. of land, to serve the King with 6 men-at-arms in his wars; the King to gratify the said Robert, and the better to support his son, granted that the said Robert and his heirs: and some years after, his brother Robert released to him and his heirs all his right in the said manor, and in the advowson of the church there. Being thus provided for, he attended the King in his first voyage to France, by way of Flanders 1340, and was in the Battle fought near Vironfosse. Two years after he went into Aquitaine in the King's service; and in the year ensuing he attended the King in Bretagne, while the King foraged the country and laid siege to Dinant. "For his good services done the King, he granted him a pension of 200 pounds p.a. for his life, to support his dignity of Bannaret, of which sum 120 pounds was assigned from the Priory of St Neots at Stoke, next Clare, and 80 pounds out of that of Eye, these were afterwards changed for other benefits".
     Edmund Peverel or Peverele: Lincolnshire (includes petition by Robert de Lyle regarding the wardship of Edmund's heir John, and two letters from the king to the chancellor touching this matter), 12 Edward III.
     Robert de Lyle petitioned the King.
Other people mentioned: [Henry of Lancaster], Earl of Lancaster; John Peverel, son and heir of Edmund Peverel; Edmund Peverel; John de Stonore (Stonor). Lyle requests the king's aid in the case between him and the earl of Lancaster, the earl challenging his right to the wardship and marriage of John Peverel, though he has no right in the same.
Endorsement: This letter came 24 day of January, 12 [Edward III]..
     Lisle. Gules a leopard argent crowned or. Robert Lisle was summoned to Parliament as Lord Lisle from 1311. Shortly before his death (in January 1342–3) he took religious orders, having previously in 1339 granted Pishobury with other manors to his daughters Alice, wife of Sir Thomas Seymour, and Elizabeth Peverel for life, with remainder to his son John, who quitclaimed to his sisters. (fn. 82) This grant was apparently made by Robert for the performance of certain alms. (fn. 83) In 1343, however, John obtained from Alice and Elizabeth a release of the manor for thirty years, with the exception of certain premises—viz. the house on the left-hand side within the second gate, which contained two chambers for habitation, and the park of Gedelesho, which belonged to the manor, John retaining 12 acres of underwood yearly with profits from the land called Vodeleye and housbote and heybote for the manor, the keeper of Gedelesho Wood to be chosen with the assent of both parties and to have his robe from Alice and his livery of corn, &c., from John. (fn. 84) John Lord Lisle died seised of the lease in 1356. (fn. 85) After his death Alice Seymour surrendered Pishobury to his son Robert, who was to assist her in the foundation of charities begun by Sir John Lisle for the soul of his father. (fn. 86) In 1368 Robert Lisle granted his knights' fees and the courts held for his tenants at Walbrook and Farningho, co. Essex, to the king. (fn. 87) This transaction has led to the inference that he had no legitimate issue, but one pedigree gives him a son William, (fn. 88) and a William Lisle granted Pishobury in March 1392–3 to Richard first Lord Scrope of Bolton, (fn. 89) this transaction being followed in 1394 by a quitclaim from Sir Robert Lisle. (fn. 90) From: 'Parishes: Sawbridgeworth', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 3 (1912), pp. 332-347. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43625&strquery=insula rougemont Date accessed: 12 March 2012..
     Robert de Lisle and Robert de Lisle were mentioned in a deed dated 1340 in the manor, Kirkby Overblow. At Westminster, Quindene of Michaelmas, 14 Edward III (1340). Thomas de Insula, quer., Robert de Insula, def., of the manor of Kireby Orblower, except the advowson of the church thereof: To hold (subject to the life estate of William de Risshton) to Thomas and the heirs male of his body, paying yearly to Robert and his heirs one rose at the Nativity of St John the Baptist for all service to them, and doing all other services to the chief lords; remainder to Robert son the said Robert de Insula for life: remainders in succession to Robert and John, sons of the said John, and the heirs male of their bodies; reversion to Robert de Insula and his heirs. William [de Risshton] was present and consenting, and did fealty.
In 1340 Robert de Lisle sold property. Comprising the manor of Kirkby Overblow by a fine: 1340 at Westminster: Thomas de Insula, quer., Robert de Insula, def. of the manor of Kirkby Orblower, except the advowson of the church thereof: To hold (subject to the life estate of William de Risshton) to Thomas and the heirs male of his body, paying yearly to Robert and his heirs one rose at the Nativity of St John the Baptist for all service to them, and doing all other services to the chief lords; remainder to Robert son of the said Robert de Insula for life; remainder to John son the said Robert de Insula for life; remainders in succession to Robert and John, sons of the said John, and the heirs male of their bodies; reversion to Robert de Insula and his heirs. William [de Risshton] was present and consenting, and did fealty. He was the subject of an Inquisition on 23 March 1341/42. Robert del Isle. Writ to the escheator of co. Cambs, etc. to inquire what lands etc. the said Robert held on the day when he was professed in an order of religion etc 23 March 16 Edw III.
Cambs: Inq. taken at Cottenham, 23 April - He held no lands. etc in the county on the day he was professed.
John his son aged 24 & more, is his next heir.
Similar writ to the escheator whi is also to inquire whether the said Robert alienated any lands etc to anyone 3 May 16 Edw III.
Cambs: Inq. taken at Holytone 15 May. Manors of Ramptone, Cotenham & Westwyk & advowdson of church of Wynepol, but alienated them to Alice, daughter of Robert de Insula, Elizabeth Peverell, Richard de Baiocis, Wm de Ruston, Edmunde de Benhale & Henry Ewenny, to hold to them, during their lives, of the said Robert & his heirs, doing the serviced thereto pertaining to the chief lords of that fee, with remainder to John, his son, as appears in a fine levied inthe king's court. The said manor of Rampton is held of John Burdeleys, as of the manor of Maddyngle, by knight's service. The manor of Cotenham is held of the bishop of Ely, by knight's service. The manor of Westwyck and the advowson fo the church of Wynepol, with a certain manor in the town of Great Wilburgham, which the said Robert, before he assumed the habit of religion, alienated to the said John, his son and heir, are held of the earl of Brittany, by service of a sore sparrow-hawk, or half a mark yearly. The said Robert, who held the manor of Coveneye, alienated it long before he assumed the habit of religion, to the aforesaid Alice, etc. to hold to them, for their lives, of the said Robert and his hiers, with remainder to John his son, as appears by fine levied in the king's court. The said manor of Coveneye is held of the prior and convent of Ely, as in socage and by service of 5s yearly. He held no lands etc. in the county on the day he assumed the habit of religion.
     Similar writ to the escheator in co. Oxford, etc. 3 May.
Oxford: Inq. taken at Oxford, 18 May. Hayford Warin. The said Robert, long before he assumed the habit of religion, alienated the manor oto the said Alice etc for their lives, by fine levied in the king's court, at Westminster, 3 weeks from the day of St Michael, 13 Edw III; and it is held of the earl of Cornwall by service of a fifth part of a knight's fee. He held no lands etc. in the bailiwick on the day he was professed. John his son, aged 24 years is his next heir.
Similar writ to the escheator in co. Essex etc. 3 May.
Essex. Inq. taken at Herllawe 17 May. He held no lands etc. in fee in the county on the day he assumed the habit of religion or before.
Hertford. Inq. taken at Ware, 15 May 16 Edw III:
Pysshobury. He held the manor, but long before he assumed the habit of religion he alienated the same to Alice & Elizabeth, daughters of Robert de Isle, Richard de Bayeuse, William de Russhton, Edmund de Benhale and Henry Ewenay, to hold to them for their lives, of the chief lords of that fee, by the accustomed services, with remainder to John his son, to hold for life as above, with further successive remainders to Robert, son of the said John, and the heirs of his body, to hold as above, and to John brother of the said Robert, son of John, and the heirs of his body, to hold as above. The manor is held of Geoffrey de Say, Knight, by service of three knights' fees and three-quarters.
He held no lands etc. in the country of the day he assumd the habit of religion.
John his son, aged 23 years and more, is his next heir
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     Robert died on 4 January 1342/43 aged 53. He was buried at Grey Friars, London. He was the subject of an Inquisition on 23 March 1343. Robert del Isle - Writs to enquire what lands etc the said Robert held on the day when he professed in an order of religion 23 Mar 16 Edw III [c1343]. John his son aged 24 years & more is his next heir; similar writ to the escheator who is also to enquire what lands were alienated prior 3 May 16 Edw III; alienated land to Alice daughter of Robert de Insula, Elizabeth Peverell, Richard de Baiocis, Wm de Ruston, Edmund de Benhale & Henry Ewenny .... during the lives of the said Robert & his heirs ... to Alice & Elizabeth daughter of Robert de Lisle & etc. with remainder to John his son, with succession remainder to Robert, son of said John & to John, brother of the said Robert, son of John ....Re lands at Cambs, Oxford & Hertford. Lands held of Earl of Brittany.
     Robert died on 4 January 1343/44 in London, aged 54. He was buried after 4 January 1343/44 in All Saints Franciscan church, London.
     See Cockayne for details of his career.
He was a minor when his father died, eventually allotted Harewood as heir of the Fitzgerald blood following claim of Hugh de Courtenay to the Redvers estate. He was a distinguished soldier, was created Knight Banneret for gallantry in the field and summoned to parliament as Baron de L'Isle of Rougemont from 1311 to 1342. In the latter year on the death of his wife, he assumed the habit of the religious and himself died a few months later.
     Took holy orders on the death of his wife after settling some of his estates on Alice daughter of Robert de L'Isle, Elizabeth Peverall & Richard Bayeaux for life, the rest to John son of Robert de L'Isle & his heirs. In 1336 the manor of Harewood was worth 40 marks per annum.
     In 1337 granted Harewood to his son John. Robert de Insula presents to the church of Harewood Dec 1310 " " " " " " 1335 Dec 1310, 1321, 1335 Patron of Church after Rex therefore he was first inheritor of Harewood.
He entered the Franciscan Order as priest [Cokayne p.73].
Had land at Rampton, Cotenham & Westwyk, with the advowson of the church of Wynepol, (all at Cambs) but alienated them before he assumed the habit of religion to .... Also had land at Heyford Waryn Oxford, & Pisshobury Hertford. [Farrer Vol 3 p 172-3]. He bore arms: Gules, a lyon passant gardant argent crowned or. Robert de Lisle, of Rougement, baron 1311, appears to be referred to in the first entry. Sir John, his son or grandson, knighted the the capitulation of Calais 1348. Sir Gerard and Sir Warin, of Rutland, both bore the arms at the first Dunstable tournament 1308. Parliamentary roll ascribed to another Gerard in Dering Roll. They are also ascribed to Sir Foulk in Harliean Roll.

Children of Robert de Lisle and Margaret de Beauchamp