Sir David Dunbar
(say 1354 - )
Sir David Dunbar was born say 1354 in Scotland
. He is described as the youngest brother of the 9th Earl and 3rd Earl of March and is the ancestor of the Cumnock line. He was the son of Sir Patrick Dunbar and Isabella Randolph.
In 1375, George, tenth [9th] Earl of March, resigned In favour of David Dunbar the very extensive territories of Cumnock, Blantyre, and other lands According to Sir Robert Douglas, in his Baronage, David was a son of a George Dunbar, an alleged son of the eighth Earl, but of this no evidence has been found. In the charter of 1375 no relationship is stated, and no direct proof has been discovered, but from the very large grant thus made the barony of Cumnock alone embracing 50,000 acres of land-there is a presumption that David was a brother of Earl George. He appears further in three writs of uncertain date, but confirmed by Robert, Duke of Albany, in 1411, as Sir David Dunbar of Cumnock, knight, and had then a son and heir, Sir Patrick of Dunbar, also a knight, who was the real granter of certain lands and wadsets to Gilbert Grierson of Arde.

In 1375, George, tenth [9th] Earl of March, resigned In favour of David Dunbar the very extensive territories of Cumnock, Blantyre, and other lands According to Sir Robert Douglas, in his Baronage, David was a son of a George Dunbar, an alleged son of the eighth Earl, but of this no evidence has been found. In the charter of 1375 no relationship is stated, and no direct proof has been discovered, but from the very large grant thus made the barony of Cumnock alone embracing 50,000 acres of land-there is a presumption that David was a brother of Earl George. He appears further in three writs of uncertain date, but confirmed by Robert, Duke of Albany, in 1411, as Sir David Dunbar of Cumnock, knight, and had then a son and heir, Sir Patrick of Dunbar, also a knight, who was the real granter of certain lands and wadsets to Gilbert Grierson of Arde.
Child of Sir David Dunbar
- Sir Patrick Dunbar+ b. b 1405, d. b 1437
Sir David Dunbar 1st baronet of Baldoon
(circa 1610 - 12 December 1686)
Sir David Dunbar 1st baronet of Baldoon was also known as (of Baldone or Baldoon) in records. Sir David Dunbar 1st baronet of Baldoon was also known as David Dunbar in records. He was born circa 1610 in Baldoon, Wigtownshire, Scotland
. He was the son of Archibald Dunbar.
Sir David Dunbar 1st baronet of Baldoon was also reported as having married Lady Margaret Montgomery. They had issue, but his heirs male failing the title became extinct.
Sir David Dunbar 1st baronet of Baldoon married Elizabeth MacCulloch on 1 May 1641. David was created a baronet. The title became dormant on his death until 1916 when revived as Hope-Dunbar on 13 October 1664.
Sir David Dunbar 1st baronet of Baldoon married secondly Anna Sydserf in 1666. She was the daughter of Sir Archibald, and died without issue. Sir David Dunbar 1st baronet of Baldoon bore arms: Dunbar of Bladone, The Right Worshipful Sir David, Knight & Baronety [ofNova Scotia]. Arms - Gules, a lyon rampant argnet, within abordur of ye second charged with ten roses as the first....
David died on 12 December 1686.

Sir David Dunbar 1st baronet of Baldoon was also reported as having married Lady Margaret Montgomery. They had issue, but his heirs male failing the title became extinct.
Sir David Dunbar 1st baronet of Baldoon married Elizabeth MacCulloch on 1 May 1641. David was created a baronet. The title became dormant on his death until 1916 when revived as Hope-Dunbar on 13 October 1664.
Sir David Dunbar 1st baronet of Baldoon married secondly Anna Sydserf in 1666. She was the daughter of Sir Archibald, and died without issue. Sir David Dunbar 1st baronet of Baldoon bore arms: Dunbar of Bladone, The Right Worshipful Sir David, Knight & Baronety [ofNova Scotia]. Arms - Gules, a lyon rampant argnet, within abordur of ye second charged with ten roses as the first....
David died on 12 December 1686.
Child of Sir David Dunbar 1st baronet of Baldoon and Elizabeth MacCulloch
- David Dunbar d. 1682
Child of Sir David Dunbar 1st baronet of Baldoon
David Leslie Dunbar
(4 September 1907 - 1 October 1989)
- Charts
- Dunbar descendants
David Leslie Dunbar was born on 4 September 1907 in Ipswich, Queensland
. He was the son of John Henry Dunbar and Florence Beatrice Buckenham.
David Leslie Dunbar married Irene Muriel Smith on 2 February 1931 in Warwick, Queensland
.
David died on 1 October 1989 in Toowoomba, Queensland
, aged 82.

David Leslie Dunbar married Irene Muriel Smith on 2 February 1931 in Warwick, Queensland

David died on 1 October 1989 in Toowoomba, Queensland

Donald Dunbar
(1913 - )
Donald Dunbar was born in 1913 in Queensland
. He was the son of George Dunbar and Catherine Matilda Davis.

Dorothy Dunbar
(before 1580 - )
Dorothy Dunbar was born before 1580 in Moray, Scotland
. She was the daughter of James Dunbar.
Dorothy Dunbar married Alexander Dunbar, son of Patrick Dunbar, after 1600. Dorothy Dunbar was served heir to James Dunbar and Sir Alexander Dunbar on 1 May 1604. Dorothy Dunbar was served heir to Sir Alexander Dunbar on 1 May 1604 in Elgin, Moray, Scotland
. Dorothy Dunbar was served heir to Sir Alexander Dunbar on 1 May 1604 in Elgin, Moray
.
Dorothy Dunbar was mentioned on 18 June 1605.
Dorothy Dunbar was mentioned in September 1606.
1607 17 Feb Dorothy Dunbar, Lady of Westfield: James Dunbar, Sheriff of Murray her brother having died without heirs male, she succeeded him being married first to James Dunbar of Tarbert and afterwards to the said Alexander Dunbar of Westfield - charging her husband with cruel treatment of her, her husband Alex Dunbar to appear before council, employing his father in law Alex Tulloch in his devices..
Dorothy Dunbar was mentioned on 23 May 1611.

Dorothy Dunbar married Alexander Dunbar, son of Patrick Dunbar, after 1600. Dorothy Dunbar was served heir to James Dunbar and Sir Alexander Dunbar on 1 May 1604. Dorothy Dunbar was served heir to Sir Alexander Dunbar on 1 May 1604 in Elgin, Moray, Scotland


Dorothy Dunbar was mentioned on 18 June 1605.
Dorothy Dunbar was mentioned in September 1606.
1607 17 Feb Dorothy Dunbar, Lady of Westfield: James Dunbar, Sheriff of Murray her brother having died without heirs male, she succeeded him being married first to James Dunbar of Tarbert and afterwards to the said Alexander Dunbar of Westfield - charging her husband with cruel treatment of her, her husband Alex Dunbar to appear before council, employing his father in law Alex Tulloch in his devices..
Dorothy Dunbar was mentioned on 23 May 1611.
Child of Dorothy Dunbar and Alexander Dunbar
- Janet Dunbar b. b 1605, d. a 1611
Dorothy Elizabeth Dunbar
(18 July 1895 - 4 October 1976)
- Charts
- Dunbar descendants
Dorothy Elizabeth Dunbar was born on 18 July 1895 in Bonnie Doon, Victoria
. She was the daughter of John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar and Margaret Ann Green.
In 1911 letter from Edward Hussey Vivian Dunbar to J K Dunbar he hopes that "Dorothy will succeed in passing her examination. Teaching is splendid for a girl". Dorothy Elizabeth Dunbar was registered in the 1919 electoral roll with John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar and Margaret Ann Green.
Dorothy Elizabeth Dunbar married Hugh Michael O'Rorke on 26 March 1919 in the church of the Holy Redeemer. He was granted a soldier settlement block at Westmere and called it Killigrew..
Dorothy died on 4 October 1976 in Ararat, Victoria
, aged 81. She was buried after 4 October 1976 in Lake Bolac, Victoria
.

In 1911 letter from Edward Hussey Vivian Dunbar to J K Dunbar he hopes that "Dorothy will succeed in passing her examination. Teaching is splendid for a girl". Dorothy Elizabeth Dunbar was registered in the 1919 electoral roll with John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar and Margaret Ann Green.
Dorothy Elizabeth Dunbar married Hugh Michael O'Rorke on 26 March 1919 in the church of the Holy Redeemer. He was granted a soldier settlement block at Westmere and called it Killigrew..
Dorothy died on 4 October 1976 in Ararat, Victoria


Children of Dorothy Elizabeth Dunbar and Hugh Michael O'Rorke
- Brian O'Rorke b. 1922, d. 1922
- Sheila O'Rorke+ b. 4 Jul 1924, d. 29 Nov 2004
- Hugh O'Rorke b. c 1926, d. Jun 1945
- Kevin Leo O'Rorke+ b. 30 Oct 1927, d. 11 Feb 2013
- John Hugh O'Rorke+ b. 22 Nov 1934, d. 9 Aug 2013
Dorothy Gwendoline Pattison Dunbar
(23 January 1927 - 25 September 1984)
- Charts
- Dunbar descendants
Dorothy Gwendoline Pattison Dunbar was commonly known as Gwen. She was born on 23 January 1927 in Tudor Street, Bourke, New South Wales
. She was the daughter of Frederick Charles Dunbar and Elsie Violet Manson.
Dorothy Gwendoline Pattison Dunbar was employed as a shearers' cook.
Dorothy Gwendoline Pattison Dunbar married Richard Henry Rowe in 1944 in Kalgoorlie, Western Australia
.
Dorothy died on 25 September 1984 in Geraldton, Western Australia
, aged 57. She was buried in Chapman Valley
.

Dorothy Gwendoline Pattison Dunbar was employed as a shearers' cook.
Dorothy Gwendoline Pattison Dunbar married Richard Henry Rowe in 1944 in Kalgoorlie, Western Australia

Dorothy died on 25 September 1984 in Geraldton, Western Australia


Edgar Dunbar
(before 1138 - )
Edgar, styled son of Gospatric in a charter granted by him to the monks of St. Albans, sometime between 1139 and 1146.` He had also the flattering sobriquet of 'Unnithing,' Edgar Unnithing, or Edgar the Dauntless." He is first named in 1138, when Richard of Hexham, who styles him, probably with more anger than truth, a bastard, 'nothus,' tells of his wicked plundering and destroying of lands belonging to the Abbey.' He held Bewick and Eglingham from the monks of St. Albans in feu, but these were forfeited in 1174. He held also other lands in the same neighbourhood. The date of his death has not been ascertained. He married Aliz, daughter of Ivo, son of Forne, and with her obtained ten manors, five of which were in Northumberland, In Coquetdale, and the others situated in Yorkshire, Westmoreland, and Cumberland.
. Edgar Dunbar was born before 1138. He was the son of Gospatrick Dunbar 1st Earl.
. Edgar Dunbar was born before 1138. He was the son of Gospatrick Dunbar 1st Earl.
Children of Edgar Dunbar
Edith Maud Dunbar
(1907 - 31 October 1907)
Edith Maud Dunbar was born in 1907 in Queensland
. She was the daughter of George Dunbar and Catherine Matilda Davis.
Edith died on 31 October 1907 in Queensland
.

Edith died on 31 October 1907 in Queensland

Edward Dunbar
(3 December 1808 - 23 April 1839)
- Charts
- Dunbar descendants
Edward Dunbar was born before 3 December 1808 in New St, Dublin
. He was christened on 3 December 1808 in St Peter, Dublin
. He was the son of Major John Killigrew Dunbar and Jane Mary Vivian.
Edward matriculated at Trinity College, Dublin
, on 17 October 1825. Pensioner (Mr Feinaigle) Oct 17 1825 aged 17; son of John, miles; born Dublin.
Edward died on 23 April 1839 in Ranelagh, Rathmines, Dublin, Ireland
, aged 30. The Londonderry sentinel reported on the 4 May 1839: On the 23rd Ult., in the prime of life, Edward Dunbar, Esq., son of Major John Killigrew Dunbar, late of Garrison House, county Fermanagh, and grandson of Major George Dunbar, who was a member of the Irish Parliament, for upwards of sixty years. It was also reported in Freeman's journal 27 April 1839 and the Enniskillen Chronicle and Erne packet 2 May 1839: April 23, in the prime of life, at Ranelagh, after a long and protracted illness, which he bore with Christian resignation, Edward Dunbar, Esq., sixth son of Major John Killigrew Dunbar, late of Garrison Hosue, county Fermanagh, and grandson of Major George Dunbar, who was upwards of 60 years Member in the Irish Parliament.
Saunders newsletter 26 April, goes on to say: In him the Education Society have lost a vaulable officer, and a mother and familytheir sole support..


Edward matriculated at Trinity College, Dublin

Edward died on 23 April 1839 in Ranelagh, Rathmines, Dublin, Ireland

Saunders newsletter 26 April, goes on to say: In him the Education Society have lost a vaulable officer, and a mother and familytheir sole support..
Edward Dunbar
Children of Edward Dunbar
- Alexander Dunbar b. b 1690
- Elizabeth Dunbar b. b 1690
Edward Dunbar
(before 1138 - )
Edward,'who held the lands of Edlingham, Hedgley, Harehope, and others, in Northumberland,' and also lands in Scotland, not named, but apparently near Dunbar, which the monks of Melrose held from him in feufarm. He granted to the monks of May, for himself and his children, and for the soul of his wife Sibilla, a chalder of meal from his mill of Beltana, or Belton. near Dunbar, each year at the Feast of St. Cuthbert.' Some time before 1176 he and his son Waldeve had a dispute with his brother Edgar as to 'the right to certain lands, but Edgar's claim was disallowed.' Edward had issue by Sibilla his wife a son, Waldeve,' who consented to the charter to the monks of May. He apparently had a son, named John, son of Waldeve, who died not long before 1247 and Edward's descendants held Edlingham and other lands for some generations. Edward Dunbar was born before 1138. He was the son of Gospatrick Dunbar 1st Earl.
Edward Dunbar
(11 May 1727 - 2 December 1727)
Edward Dunbar was christened on 11 May 1727 in St Mary, Dublin
. He was the son of John Dunbar and Margaret Rawdon.
Edward was buried on 2 December 1727 in Dublin
.

Edward was buried on 2 December 1727 in Dublin

Edward Dunbar
(circa 1854 - 8 July 1893)
- Charts
- Dunbar descendants
Edward Dunbar was born circa 1854 in Glossop, Derbyshire, England
. He was the son of Patrick Dunbar and Mary Wood. Lillian, Annie, Charles, Edward and Frederick were listed as the children of Patrick Dunbar in the 1861 census in Rochdale rd, Beecroft Terrace, Blackley, Manchester, Lancashire
. Charles, Edward and Frederick were listed as the children of Patrick Dunbar in the 1871 census in Ardwick, Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England
.
Edward Dunbar married Frances (?) before 1880.
Edward Dunbar and Frances (?) were recorded on the 1881 census in 18 Ducie Grove, Levenshulme, Chorlton, Lancashire
. Edward Dunbar, 27, oil & leather trade - commercial traveller, born Glossop, Derbyshire, wife Frances, 22, born Liverpool, daughter Florence, aged 1, born Levenshulme.
Mary Jolley married secondly Edward Dunbar on 21 November 1887 in St Andrew, Ancoats, Manchester, Lancashire
.
Edward Dunbar was recorded on the 1891 census in Davenport Ave, Withington, Chorlton, Lancashire
. Edward Dunbar, 34, widower, mill furnisher, born Glossop, daughter Florence R Dunbar, 11, scholar, son Edward 9, scholar, both born Levenshulme, son John A aged 1, born Sale, Cheshire,with Dora J Baldwin, housekeeper, widow, 46, born London.
Edward died on 8 July 1893 in Chorlton, Lancashire
.
His will was proved on 7 April 1898 at Manchester
. Edward Dunbar, of 39 Rippingham-road, Withington, near Manchester, mill-furnisher, died 8 July 1893. Adminiastration (Limited) 7 April to Annie Elizabeth St Albans Brown (wife of William Brown). Effects £180. Former grant August 1893.



Edward Dunbar married Frances (?) before 1880.
Edward Dunbar and Frances (?) were recorded on the 1881 census in 18 Ducie Grove, Levenshulme, Chorlton, Lancashire

Mary Jolley married secondly Edward Dunbar on 21 November 1887 in St Andrew, Ancoats, Manchester, Lancashire

Edward Dunbar was recorded on the 1891 census in Davenport Ave, Withington, Chorlton, Lancashire

Edward died on 8 July 1893 in Chorlton, Lancashire

His will was proved on 7 April 1898 at Manchester

Children of Edward Dunbar and Frances (?)
- Florence Rosabel Dunbar b. c 1879, d. 1894
- Edward William Dunbar b. Sep 1881
Child of Edward Dunbar and Mary Jolley
- John Adolphus Dunbar b. 19 Jan 1890, d. 12 Nov 1959
Edward Dunbar Dunbar
(23 August 1818 - 10 January 1898)
Edward Dunbar Dunbar was also known as Edward Dunbar (of Seapark) in records. He was born on 23 August 1818. He was the son of Sir Archibald Dunbar 6th Bart of Northfield and Helen Gordon Cumming.
Edward Dunbar Dunbar married Phoebe Dunbar on 17 October 1848 in Forres, Moray, Scotland
. Married on the 17th ultimo... Edward Dunbar, Esq, Captain, H M 22nd Regiment, third son of the late Sir Archibald Dunbar of Northfield, Bart, to Phoebe Dunbar of Seapark, youngest daughter of the late Duncan Dunbar, Esq of Limehouse, London,.
Edward Dunbar Dunbar served in the military as a Captain in the 21st Fusiliers in 1852.
Edward died on 10 January 1898 aged 79.
Edward Dunbar Dunbar married Phoebe Dunbar on 17 October 1848 in Forres, Moray, Scotland

Edward Dunbar Dunbar served in the military as a Captain in the 21st Fusiliers in 1852.
Edward died on 10 January 1898 aged 79.
Children of Edward Dunbar Dunbar and Phoebe Dunbar
- Daughter Dunbar b. 23 Jul 1852
- Son Dunbar b. 31 Jul 1853
- Son Dunbar b. 2 Jan 1855
Child of Edward Dunbar Dunbar
- Rev John Archibald Dunbar b. 8 Oct 1849, d. 11 Nov 1905
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar
(22 November 1849 - 24 February 1913)
- Charts
- Dunbar descendants
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar was commonly known as Vivian. He was born on 22 November 1849 in 6 Grantham St, Dublin, Ireland
. He described himself as the eldest son. He was the son of Henry Hussey Vivian Dunbar and Anna Caddell. Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar was christened on 31 January 1850 in St Peter, Dublin
.
He lived with his grandmother Jane Dunbar until her death in 1864, presumably after the early death of his mother. In July 1911 he stated that he has been 37 years in Australia and that he was only 15 when his home was broken up, and an executor robbed him of everything bearing on the history of the family..
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar arrived per "Indus" on 29 December 1874 at Brisbane, Queensland
. Edward was appointed Acting Head Teacher (Boys), at One-mile in 1879, Gympie, Queensland
. Edward was appointed Head Teacher in 1879, Tallegalla, Queensland
. Edward was appointed Head Teacher in 1880, Camp Flat, Queensland
.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar married Jane Emmeline Ryder on 10 January 1880 in Nudgee, Queensland
. Edward was head teacher from 1882 to 1886.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar was listed in a directory dated from 1890 to 1896 as Ed. V Dunbar, teacher at East Bundaberg, Queensland
. He was a Freemason in 1895 in Mulgrave Lodge, Bundaberg, Queensland
.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar was listed in a directory dated 1897 as Ed V Dunbar, teacher at Cairns, Queensland
.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar was listed in a directory dated between 1901 and 1902 at E Bundaberg, QLD
. He was principal of the State School, Bundberg East..
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar was listed in a directory dated between 1906 and 1907 as A V E Dunbar, teacher at Middle Ridge, Toowomba, Queensland
.
The Toowoomba chronicle reported on 18 Dec 1906: 'Historical sketches' From the Citizen Publishing Coy, Ruthven St, comes a booklet entitled 'Sketches from English, Irish and Scottish history' by E H V Dunbar. Of the author it has bee said 'a keen student of history and an orater of no mean ability, Mr E H V Dunbar has acquired considerable popularity by his lectures, which have been delivered to various associations embracing all shades of religious and political opinions. At the request of a large number of admirers, extracts from these lectures are now issued in booklet form'. The excerpts are extremely interesting as British history well told always is. There are 22 subjects treated. The Sketches are published at one shilling.
Sketches from Irish history: Mr E H V Dunbar, the well-known and popular lecturer on Celtic subjects will deliver a lecture in the Hibernian Hall tongiht at 8 o'clock. An invitation is cordially extended to all, especially the lady folk. His worship the mayor (Alderman E J Gedsall) will occupy the chair. The opportunity will be seised by members of the local Hibernian Society, to place on record their esteem and appreciation of Mr Dunbar, ere he takes his departure from Toowoomba.
. Edward between 1907 and 1913, The Rural School, Nambour, Queensland
.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar was listed in a directory dated from 1908 to 1914 at Nambour, Queensland
.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD
, sent a letter dated 11 September 1910 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. Nambour, Queensland, 11 Sept. 1910
Dear Cousin John,
I expected to hear from you, but possibly you thought it would do if the girls wrote: and it does perhaps do just as well. However, I wanted to let you know (or remind you as the case may be) of 2 or 3 matters which you as heir-at-law ought to bear in mind.
The most important to my mind, that the Arwenack case 28 (or so) years ago was a test-case and the decision of the Chancellor in that case would probably apply to the rest of the Killigrew property, and as that property may be worth anything up to a million, you ought to get into communication with all your relatives. Perhaps the Ceylon Dunbars may be well off and could afford to make enquiries.
I could get 12 months leave of absence (on half pay) at any time, but then I could not afford to go home as I have no money saved, in any case I am too old to care to spend any money on what could not benefit me for some years to come, and that would be "Too Late".
Another and important fact that the value of the Arwenack property was divided among all the then living descendants of Major J.K. Dunbar. Today there are only the descendants of 3 sons alive. The Reverend John's, Frederick's, and Henry's.
In '81 or '82 Clara (Charles' daughter) and Mary (George's) were alive but unmarried and too old to have children if later married. George and Charles had no other issue.
Should there be any information in my power to give you I shall be most happy to do so.
I think that you should write to Philpott (if he is alive): I do not say that you should spend any money further than that what buys postage stamps & paper, but you need not be sparing of your time.
Your cousin E.H.V. Dunbar
My only brother (died unmarried) was W.T. Killigrew Dunbar. Are you Killigrew? I have a seal given by Charles II to Lady Killigrew. In our house at home we had a beautiful Cabinet given by the same lively monarch to Killigrew himself. Also a spinning wheel given by Charles to Killigrew or some other ancestral connection.
Of course, the whole business may be a dream, but still there is the Arwenack case and Philpot evidently took all risks. Had the decision been the other way, he would have lost (seemingly) £300 certain to £600 possibly.
And for the past 80 years all relatives have been convinced of the reality of the Dunbar claims whatever their notion of the value of the property. You understand that I lived with my grandmother (the Major's widow) generally 'till 1864 when she died (she had her marriage settlement annuity from '52 to '64). I knew Captain Fred intimately '79 to '90 (I think). I met the Rev. John (your grandfather): even George I stayed with in Paris as a child. I was 15 when my father died. So you will infer that I must have heard a good deal (true or exaggerated) about the family. Charles' daughter (Clara) lived as my father's ward in our home from '57 'til1 that home broke up in '65.
Lastly, the infernal law suit led directly or indirectly to the ruin of all of us in Ireland
E.H.V.D
.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD
, sent a letter dated 25 September 1910 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. Nambour, Queensland, 25-9-10
My dear Cousin,
Let me in the first place let you know who I am. I sent a copy of pedigree of later generations to your daughter Alice. If you refer to that you will see that I am the eldest son of Henry Hussey Vivian Dunbar the youngest son by second wife of your great-grandfather. He was chief clerk of the Irish Education Department. My mother (nee Anna Caddell) was an heiress on a small scale. Both my parents died young one in 1863 the other in '65. The Revd. John was at my father's deathbed, a hale old man while my poor father was 42 and a broken hearted wreck. (the curse of the big lawsuit indirectly responsible for the wreck.)
I will be happy to give you any information I can, "free, gratis, and for nothing" and I assume that you would be fairly generous to your kinsmen if you came in for a million more or less. But as I am over 60 years of age I would not take any active part for I have nothing saved. Of course I could get leave of absence at any time but it would be without pay. (at least after 6 months)
I should tell you I am, (so far as I know), the only member of the Dunbar family in Australia that was born in Ireland. I knew your grandfather (and have one or two of his letters even now). I knew (Captain) Frederick very well. From him I got 2 seals, one given by Charles II to Lady Killigrew, the other said to have been worn by John Dunbar (aide de camp to Marlboro' ). Clara, daughter of Charles (killed at Arrah) and I were brought up together from 1857 to '65. So you will see that I know more of the family than anyone living. All the same I do not know as much as I would like to know.
I have written to a nephew of mine (a son of my sister) whose address is: 115 Falconer St., Clifton Hill. Melbourne
He will probably take a niece down to see you. I just got his address from his mother in England. He is a fine young fellow, but has not been more successful than the rest of his Kin for the last 80 years. I know nothing about him since he was a boy.
You might let me have the address of the Ceylon people. The Major's first wife was a Cork woman, and probably the Ceylon cousin does not know that the Dunbars did not live there. For years we owned Ballycarney in Carlow but were never regarded as a South of Ireland family.
I will try and get to Melbourne at Xmas but in the mean time shall be glad to correspond with you. I am in correspondence with Cousin Dora whose mother I knew personally 50 years ago in Dublin.
Your brother George, I corresponded with for some time in a casual way. I had a letter from him shortly before his death in the Gulf Country.
Your aunt, Elizabeth Dobson was married from my father's house I believe about 1849.
With Kindest regards to all your family, Yours sincerely, EHV Dunbar
PS If we meet, I shall tell you how I came down in the world, or rather how never got up. I was only a boy when my father died. The family would seem to have had a curse on it for over 100 years. Let us hope that the curse will lift before long.
Until I was 15 years of age I was a gentleman by education association and parentage: so you may infer that in my communication with my relatives I am not actuated by any business motives whatever. Of course I would be delighted to go home with you as a witness provided my expenses were paid, but then I could not pay my own expenses without beggaring myself.
(NOTE:- The following is written on the back of the first page of this letter. From the size of writing and its position, it was an addition after the letter had been folded.)
Did you know your uncle Tom died only a few months age in Queensland. I did not know that he was alive & in Qld. Neither did uncle Fred nor his family. The curse again
.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar received a letter from Edward Henry Hussey Stott dated 11 October 1910.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD
, sent a letter dated 24 October 1910 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. Nambour, Queensland, 24-10-10
Dear Cousin,
In the first place I wish you to understand that I am not at all offended at anything you wrote in your 1st letter to me. But it seemed possible that you might be under the impression that I would be actuated by business motives - to some extent at least in connection with the Killigrew-Dunbar property (if such have an existance), and I wished to remove that impression. Whatever information I can give you you are welcome to, without stipulations. Of course I am a poor man with the prospect of dying in receipt of the old age pension. Should you become a millionaire I would (expect ..deleted) hope that, for the credit of the name, you would act generously to your poor relations.
The great point that I wish you to keep in mind is -- that Philpott 30 years ago gained the Arwenack case and that the money was divided among the then living representatives of Major J.K. Dunbar. My two sisters got each as her share seven pounds: (Owing to a clause in my father's will they got my share between them). Your aunt Fanny (Mrs. Nichols) got a larger share than any other member owing to the Rev. J. K. Dunbar' s ( her father ) wil1. Captain Fred. K. Dunbar (the Major's only living son at the time) got £14-0-0. The shares were awarded by the court. The lawyers (on each side) got £600 between them. I have a copy of the taxed bill of costs. All this is matter of facts not of supposition.
By the way, John Stott (my nephew) remembers going with his mother to Philpott's office, tho' he had forgotten the reasons for her visit.
I might also tell you that Edw. Stott (Jack's eldest brother) has in his possession a rough draft of a sale of land at Chelmsford (A MARGINAL NOTE:- "in Essex") over 100 years ago, signed by George K. Dunbar, John K. Dunbar, and Lord Dover.
So far as my memory servs me Major J.K. D. served a writ of ejectment on Lord Loftus in connection with a property in Devonshire, in about 1806. Again I have a dim idea that Lt.Normanton, Lt.Clifden (or both) advanced a considerable sum of money to my grandfather to carry on the case or rather cases, for there were many properties involved.
The Arwenack case is the great point to be borne in mind. Should you have the opportunity, get some opinion on it. Submit it to Preston or some agency firm.
With Kind regards
Yours sincerely
E.H.V Dunbar
P.S. Do not be tempted to spend any money, as Arwenack even may have been connected with fraud tho there is no reason to think so. Write soon.
I am doubtful about the Ceylon man being one of the family. Let me know when you next hear from him. What is the town he lives near? You did not write it distinctly. Is it Kotogala?
E.H.V.D.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Hawthorn, Victoria
, sent a letter dated 20 December 1910 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. c/- Mr. John Stott, 19 Sercombe Rd, Glenferrie. 20.12.10
Dear Cousin John,
I enclose copy of pedigree: It may convey some information: You need not return it. I regret that I cannot manage to visit Penshurst. Next year I shall have more time at my disposal & hope we shall meet.
J. Stott is my sister's son: I am visiting him today. With Kind regards and best wishes for a happy Xmas,
Yours sincerely,
E .H.V. Dunbar
Address your next to Nambour. I hope to be home in 10 days.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Dandenong, Victoria, Australia
, sent a letter dated 23 December 1910 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. Excuse pencil: pens not suitable.
Dandenong, 23-12-10
Dear John,
I am with cousin Dora for a few days. I have gone thro' many of her old letters: my doubts have been increased by 2 or 3 of these. In one from Philpott he states that Martin Killigrew willed so much to George Dunbar of that ilk: I was under the impression that Mr.K had died intestate: this makes a very big difference in my opinion. Again Halahan never believed that anything else would come to the family in connection with the Killigrew property, and H. was evidently a clever man.
I saw Lloyd (the younger) for a few minutes, his father is away on a holiday: I gave him my address. L., like myself, wonders why Philpott did not go on with the case. It would evidently have paid him, (indecipherable word) by his costs in the Arwenack suit. This to my mind is a serious consideration.
In all the correspondence that Dora has, there is nothing tangible: all statements referring to the K. property are inferential or traditionary. I do not see one fact in all this correspondence that would have weight, except as collateral evidence. There are also a number of contradictory statements. Why you heard nothing from Philpott re Arwenack seems to be owing to his thinking the Rev. John's elder children were illegitimate.
With kind regards and best wishes for a happy Xmas & New Year.
Yours sincerely
E.H.V. Dunbar
P.S. Curious to say, I and brother and sisters were wards in chancery in 1865 or '66, but have heard nothing from the court since I got notice of the fact in the year mentioned. But why we were so I do not know. My mother was an heiress on a small scale. I believe that I am heir to 5 small properties, (mortgaged) but they are not worth much. However they may in the future bring in £40-0-0 per.annum
to my daughter. All of my mother's family (myself included) received $100 each some 20 years ago, most unexpectedly, out of an intestate estate in America. There was no trouble in connection with this. One fine morning I got a letter from the clerk of intestate estates in N.Y. telling me there was $100 to my credit in Bundaberg on proof of identity. I went to the bank and signed for the amount there and then & got it. Never had any other official communication. A pity the Dunbar -- kW. dividends do not come in a similar manner.
NOTE: - The next half page or 12 lines are missing. The letter continues on the last page ....
/ ....... I see that your family are R.C. Strange that 4 (at least) of the Dunbars living should have married into that faith. My mother too reverted before her death: her brother married a niece (I think) of Cardinal Cullen, and his family are of that faith.
I have also a niece, by marriage, who is now Superioress of a Convent in Virginia (US).
What must our Garrison Ancestors think of their descendants if they occasionally look down ? They must flap wings very angrily I should think.
E.H.V.D.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD
, sent a letter dated 9 January 1911 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. Nambour, Queensland, 9-1-11
Dear Cousin John,
I was in Dandenong for a few days and while there read, or rather got the gist of some 200 letters in cousin Dora's possession. Nothing tangible in these by themselves. By the way, I met your brother-in-law and enjoyed a very pleasant hour or so with him. He said he was going to see you shortly. Dora has since sent me notice of his mother's death.
The following pieces of information I have received since I wrote to you from Dandenong:--
1. De Bernardy's agent (Sydney) is in communication (personally) with your nephew George Kw.
2. It seems that the heirs of Major K. Dunbar have been advertised for.
3. George Dunbar owned 2 properties (one in London & one in Chelmsford, Essex) which were qambled away probably in 1791.
4. Martin KiIIigrew of Arwenack willed certain properties (including the 2 mentioned in 3) to George Dunbar and his heirs. The will is dated 1743. The legatee succeeded to these in 1744.
Now it was Arwenack property that was divided amongst several of us in 1887, presumably under this will of 1743, as it was from a property of said Martin Killigrew of Arwenack.
So far as I see, you as heir-at-law, would inherit any Irish estate that may exist. As to the Killigrew properties there is seemingly something different, as the Arwenack property was, as I have already said, divided among all then known decendants. I and my sisters getting shares. Captain Fred. K. the only surving son (of the Major's) got £14-0-0. I and my sisters got £14-0-0 (my father's share ) between us. Apparently the Chancellor decreed or assented to this division. My father was the only child of the 2nd marriage declared eligible to receive a share.
The story is not a savory one, taking it in its legal aspect. It would seem however that my grandfather married his 2nd wife 1stly with French Jersey or Scotch law, and 2ndly, some years before my father was born he again married her with Church of England rites. At any rate, she had her jointure out of the Garrison Estate which would imply that the Major considered her his wife from the first, or long before the C.of E. ceremony. I lived with her 'till 1864; and as I think I have already told you, Captain Charles Dunbar's orphan daughter was placed in her charge in 1857, which the War Office would hardly have allowed had there been any doubts as to the marriage. And certainly your grandfather and the HalIahans did not oppose the arrangement. Again, my younger brother and sister lived at Ballybay Rectory for a long time after my father's death in '65.
Your uncle Tom shortly before his death sent a message to George in Sydney to the effect that he never wanted to see or hear of a Dunbar again.
So far as my memory serves me the 1st step taken by the Major on leaving the army in 1804 was to serve a writ of ejectment on Lord Loftus to quit a property in Devonshire. So I take it that the Killigrew -- Dunbar property was spread over Cornwall, London, Essex, and Devonshire. Possibly in Staffordshire and Lincoln. Of course, this is only memory, I have no writing to show.
I give you all the information I am possessed of. Until 1883 or so I had only a historian's interest in the family history. Now I regard it as not impossible that you, or perhaps all of us, may benefit by our descent.
With Kindest regards to you all and best wishes for a prosperous year,
I am,
Very sincerely yours,
E.H.V. Dunbar
Thank Jean for her Xmas card.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD
, sent a letter dated 12 February 1911 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. Nambour, Queensland. 12- 2- 11
Dear Cousin,
I enclose herewith part of a letter received from my nephew, Edward Stott: he was brought up to the law, but left it for a commercial occupation. The information may be of some use to you; useful or not, it will be of interest to you as one of the family.
As I have written to you twice -- this is my 3rd letter -- since I heard from you, I shall not write again unless it be, as in this present case, to give you some fresh information which you are not likely to get from any other source. Of course, when you do write, I shall be only too pleased to reply.
Remember that 3 intelligent members of the family are under no delusions re the property -- (your humble servant, George K. (Sydny) & Edward Stott) You are heir-at-law, and must be, for that reason, the principle party concerned in all or any legal issues.
With best wishes, and Kind regards to your family,
I remain, Sincerely yours
E.H.V. Dunbar
P.S. Keep the enclosed.
Did I tell you that Bernardy's agent has interviewed Cousin George in Sydney?.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar received a letter from Edward Henry Hussey Stott dated 15 February 1911. 5 Belvedere Rd, Bexley Heath,
15th Feb 1911
Dear Uncle,
Thanks very much for your letter of the 7th ulto. to Fairview and our p'card to Brentwood -- both to hand by last mail.
I was (in common with all of us at home) interested and pleased to learn that you had managed to meet Jack, and are favourably impressed with him, his wife, and children. By a letter received this week, Jack informs Mother how delighted he was to meet you; it must indeed have been to him as a fresh bond with Home.
am obliged by the information given in the rough table of the Major's descendants. His matrimonial affairs certainly appear somewhat con. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Apparently, then, the . . . . . . . . . . . .??issue of his second marriage .... ipeten.. to share in any distribution of Estate, would be your father, the latter's interest of course, vested in his descendants. You say the marriage between the Major and your grandmother was not originally celebrated according to C.of E. rites. It occurs to me that if the marriage was celebrated in Jersey it might have been necessary (to conform with the existing laws of succession in vogue here) for the marriage to have been confirmed in the United Kingdom. I cannot suppose that a recognised .......... did not later place somewhere ........... the birth of Patrick D. ..., ............ your statement that Phillpott declared that your & his , ........... issue were the only descendants of the second marriage who could participate in the distribution of 1886 (?). Clears up a point that puzzles me. I wondered why the issue of Patrick & Mrs Delassert (Delassent ?) had not participated. Assuming they knew of the distribution, these descendants evidently accepted the position -- or did they attempt to asset themselves in any way? Then again it would follow that if there was any irregularity in the Major's second marriage, and Philpott's view is held to be correct, (and on this ........ would doubtless have ...... doubly sure before distribut ..... all the children (of the second marriage) ........... barred from participating in any future fund available. Have you any idea of what the property (the subject of our correspondance) consists?
If of land (real property in general) then we may conclusively say that the Penshust man will get it all; if of personal property of any description, then according to English Law, the descendants of John, George, Charles, Fred & HHV will divide equally. You say ........ "it may yet be div ......... the descendants of ......... & HHV". Why omit the ....... Charles D. & (Cara D.) of ...... Charles ? Surely ........... not debarred from participation in personal Estate! Perhaps you know of some legal disability attaching to sex which seems to be jolly rough on them! Put us right, please, on this point.
Now as to De Bernardy's enquiry. I know their firm wouldn't interest themselves without the prospect of some definite pecuniary advantage attaching! They are expert at matters of this sort ie. next-of-kin business. And from the fact of the agent searching descendants other than the heir-at-law George K of Sydney, I observe from your list, is a nephew of John K. of Penshust -- and ......... fore ...... not in the direct line of succession to Real .......... - (or John K. I believe you said has sons) it would appear that a general distribution is within the bounds of possibility. I shall doubtless hear further from you on this point when you have received George K's promised letter. Hope I have made myself clear and have not been unduly redundant.
NOTE : - The letter finishes here with no signature. Perhaps this is the "part of a letter" refered to in the letter Dunbar E-9, dated 23-3-11.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD
, sent a letter dated 26 February 1911 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. Nambour, Queensland, 26- 2-11
Dear Cousin,
You must bear in mind that I know nothing whatever of Killigrew property further than what I have already told you. Until 1887 (?) it was simply a legend to me that Anne Killigrew had left a great estate that came to George Dunbar in (about) the middle of the 18th Century and was lost to the family later on. As a boy in Ireland I understood that some part of the Irish Estates might revert to the heir-at-law, (then the Rev. John Dunbar) He for reasons best known to himself made no move in the matter: he does not seem even to have given any information to his sons. One point perhaps might be useful for you to know ie. that my grandmother had her marriage jointure paid 'till her death in 1864, I believe out of the Garrison Estate: she actually received £200 per annum.
I shal1 give you any information I may receive in the future: I will answer any questions so far as I am able to do so. But so far, you are as well aquainted with the whole story as I am. Your brother George seems to have had legal advice relating to the property, but his family know no particulars. In fact his son did not attach any significance to the name Killigrew 'till I wrote to him. By the way, do you know how he came to give his daughter "Vivian" as a baptismal name ?
I have written to Joseph Dunbar (a marginal note states "The Ceylon planter") but I feel sure that he is not a descendant of my grandfather: if a kinsman, it is thro' a much earlier forbear. He is going to England shortly and I gave him Edw. Stott's address and advised him to call and see him. Stott (who is my sister's eldest son) has had considerable legal training, tho' he left it for mercantile pursuits. He is, I consider, a clever fellow with a very logical turn of mind. By the way, you might get into correspondance with him: he is on the ground as it were. You might also address him as "cousin" for you are 2nd cousins.
I trust you will understand that I have no possible reason for keeping back anything from you. As heir-at-law you must be consulted by any lawer who may interest himself in the case. You will possibly get all of anything that may come of legal proceedings.
I may tell you that my work is harder than ever it has been, and I have less energy and ability to do it, and worse still I have absolutely no money saved. (My wife has a little of her own to live on). So you will infer that I have neither time nor money to spend on what may really be a myth or what might be of no benefit to me in any case.
Excuse haste: I am writing also to George (Sydney) and to Dora. If I had a shilling for every half-hour I have spent in letter writing-connected with the family history I would be a rich man, of course, the value of stamps and note-paper included.
With Kind regards to your wife & family,
Yours sincerely,
E.H.V. Dunbar.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD
, sent a letter dated 23 March 1911 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. Nambour, Queensland 23-3-11
Dear Cousin John,
I enclose letter received from my nephew, E.E.H. Stott. It may interest you to read it. You can burn it when read, or at least you need not return it. I should have said "part of a letter", the other part had no bearing on the Killigrew-Dunbar business.
You will note that I believe that both Mary and Clara are dead and certainly had no issue.
Yours in haste and with kind regards,
E. H. V. Dunbar.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD
, sent a letter dated 16 May 1911 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. Nambour, Queensland, 16-5-11
Dear Cousin,
Yours of the 11 inst. to hand. I wish to heaven that I knew what & where the Killigrew properties were or are: as I have already told you the only tangible part of the case is that the Arwenack ... was valued 25 or 6 years ago and the value legally awarded to members of the family - including among others, my father's children. That is the only distinctly and unequivacally tanqible information I possess. Were it not for that case, I would not give a second thought to the matter except as an interesting historical mystery. I see that Philpott the lawer who first moved in the case died a few weeks ago. Curious that his death should occur coincident with the revival of enquiries.
De Bernardy's agent left Sydney for Home last month. All the information George (your nephew) gave him was what he, George, had from me. That information, in substance I have given to you, Dora Wolff, and my nephews Edw. & John Stott.
Personally I am "Sub spe attainem sine expectatione" (under hope, but without expectations) Hope with a small h.
By the way, it may interest you to know that Lady Jane Kil1igrew of Arwenack, a worthy forebear, was condemned to be hanged for piracy, robbery, and murder, but got off her hanging. One of her victims cursed her and her descendants for ever and a day. The Chronicler of the incident believed that the curse would stick. Another curse was placed on the descendants of Earl Patrick (time 600 years ago): But this was only to hold good for a certain period, not particularized.
So you can see that we are handicapped on two sides, which is rather hard luck! The invocations occurred in connection with the Old Faith. Perhaps as so many of the family are reverting to that Faith, the curses may work themselves out; let us hope that the heretic members may benefit with the orthodox ones, when the luck turns. I think I told you that my mother "turned" before her death.
I hope Dorothy will succeed in passing her examination. Teaching is splendid for a girl.
Kind regards and best wishes,
Yours sincerely
E. H. V. Dunbar.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD
, sent a letter dated Good Friday 1911 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. Nambour, Queensland, Good Friday 1911
Dear Cousin John,
Just a few lines to let you know I got yours of 7 April and to let you have my nephew's address as you intimate a desire to write to him, which I have let him know. His name is Edward Henry Hussey Stott. His address is
Mr. E. H. H. Stott
5 Belvedere Road
Bexley Heath
Kent
England
De Bernardy's agent here got all particulars that G.K.D. could give him, and is now on his way to England.
Did you ever write to Preston ? He seems to be the best known of all the agents. It could do no harm to communicate with him.
Excuse short letter, I am not feeling very well for the past week or so. "Dingo" possibly.
Kindest regards to all your people,
Yours sincerely
E.H.V. Dunbar
A clipping from a newspaper is attached to the origional. It is an advertisement for missing heirs and kindred. None of those mentioned refer to the Dunbar/Killigrew business, but the reply address is that of the PRESTON who is mentioned frequently in these letters
MISSING HEIRS AND KINDRED.--The estate of Mary Ellison, of Wigan, has fallen to his Majesty the King, in right of his Duchy of Lancaster -------------------etc
For further particulars write:- Sidney H. Preston, 27 Chancery Lane, London W.C..
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD
, sent a letter dated 2 July 1911 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. Nambour, Queensland July 2nd 1911
Dear Cousin,
I am glad that you have written to Edward Stott. He has the best head of this generation of Dunbars. He is now resuming the study and practice of the law, which he should never have given up. By the way address him as cousin, for his mother and your father were 1st cousins.
I did not see reference to the action of certain of the nobility searching records of oversea families etc.: I fear you overate my ability in connection with the family business. Remember I have been 37 years in Australia, that I was only 15 when my home was broken up, and that an Executor robbed me of everything bearing on the history of the family (that Executor was, it is supposed, hanged in Paris in '71. There is today awating him or his son £40,000.
I shall probably be in Victoria in October, when I hope we shall meet.
I am not very well, having the same bothersome cold sticking to me: I had symptoms of gout many years ago, but by sticking religiously to good whiskey (Jamieson's when I can get it) I got rid of the symptoms, now the tendancy seems to be asthmatic.
Kind regards to wife and daughters,
Yours sincerely E.H.V. Dunbar.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD
, sent a letter dated 26 July 1911 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. Nambour, Queensland, 26 July 1911
Dear Cousin John,
I had a letter from Ted Stott today. Since he wrote to you he had a letter from Preston stating that he, Preston, had communicated with you in a letter dated June 7th. Ted might be able to get on the right track if you sent him the gist of Preston's letter to you and if he could get ditto of Bernardy's inquiries (thro' his agent) in Sydney, from George.
My long leave began July 1st. I went to Bundaberg, intending to put in a month there, but got sick the first week and had to come home on the 17th inst. and here I am, an invalid; some heart trouble, but probably not organic. The Dr. in Bundaberg visited me 6 times: The Dr. here, a good man luckily, is attending me and says a few weeks rest will put me right: but my dancing days are done, and I have to eschew tobacco, whiskey, and other deleterious decoctions, as well as all doubtful company. Hard luck, just as I was going to enjoy the first holiday in 37 years. Well, I have had a fair innings tho' I should have done better at the game. Never mind, there is many a better man a darned sight worse off. With this rather inelegant expression and best wishes,
I am
Yours sincerely
E.H.V. Dunbar.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD
, sent a letter dated 8 August 1911 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. Nambour, Queensland, Aug. 8th 1911
Dear Cousin,
Yours of 2nd inst. to hand. I am now out of the Doctor's hands, and shall start South about the end of the month. If Preston had anything tangible to go on he would have communicated with you long ago. Philpott took up the Arwenack case on his own responsibility and at his own risk. Preston has probably 12 adverts. referring to Major J.K. Dunbar and his descendants, but equally probably not one would be worth anything to you. I have seen half-a-dozen at least, but they were inquiries such as we are making now.
G.K. of Sydney seems a self-reliant and level headed young fellow. De Bernardy's agent interviewed him some time ago, but I do not know any particulars.
Ted Stott has all the information I can give him. You must bear in mind that I have no family documents, and that I left home when a boy, and have had no intercourse with the former generations of Dunbars for 40 years, excepting with Uncle Fred. (Captain), and the information from him was interesting rather than useful. He like the rest of us could give no definite information. Cousin Dora sent me a letter she had last month from your cousin Elizabeth at home (the Parson's wife): she certainly holds no expectations, and seemingly knows nothing whatsoever of the Killigrew property, tho' she has heard at different times of great sums that should have come to the family: but evidently never got particulars.
Let us hope that E. Stott will get on the track, if track there be, or better still, that Preston or some other lawyer will find out there is something to go on and go.
With best wishes,
Yours sincerely,
E.H.V. Dunbar
A MARGINAL POSTSCRIPT: Do not be tempted to spend money on Preston's word: If they be worth anything he will act you may be sure.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Drouin, Victoria
, sent a letter dated 23 October 1911 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. c/- Mr.E. Wolff, Railway Avenue. Drouin
23-10-11
Dear Cousin,
I have been hunting up, both in Sydney and Melbourne Public Libraries, books for information re Dunbars and their connections. I obtained a lot of more or less interest. One item I consider important. In the "Index to Prerogative Wills of Ireland" edited by Sir A. Vicars is placed "The will of George Dunbar" dated 1807. This as I take it is the will which led to the final downfall of the family in Ireland. I have sent this information home to E. Stott. (A MARGINAL NOTE:- "Only the name of the testator (with place and date) is given: nothing of the contents)
There is also in same book "The Will of John Dunbar, Ballycarney, Co. Carlow, dated 1724." This presumably also our ancestor of that ilk.
Again here is indexed "The Will of John Dunbar, Dublin 1764" who may or may not have been the father of George Dunbar aforementioned.
"Prerogative" Wills are (or were) of great importance and are kept, apparently, under special circumstances. None have been named since 1850, or thereabouts. The term is a technical one, and I do not know its meaning.
There is a very full account of the KiIligrew families in "Cornish Worthies" by Tregallis in Melbourne Library.
Anne, widow of H. Agar was George Dunbar's 1st wife. The daughter and heiress of the last of the Killigrews (mainline) was his 2nd wife by whom he had one son John Killigrew Dunbar born in Dublin: 16 May 1769. This last paragraph is complied from a book, also in the Melbourne Library entitled "Members of Parliament for Kilkenny" by Burtchell. From this book I conclude that during the 18th century the Dunbars spent nearly all their time in Carlow & Kilkenny & Dublin City, and had comparatively little to do with Fermanagh. And I further conclude that for the past 50 years that the members of the family know little or nothing about their forebears. Even Captain Fred. whom I knew intimately for 12 or 13 years did not know anything of Arwenack or Chelmsford properties. Like the others, he knew that there had been property but did not know any particulars. He believed too, that Philpott was not honest, that the Arwenack business was a fraud in fact.
Unless the will of 1807 gives something definite to go on, I shall regard the Millions as mythical.
Taylor, (De Bernardy's agent) will be back from England next week, but I fancy that he would have written at once had he anything to write about. I shall not see him.
I am staying with Cousin Dora at present and shall be here for 2 or 3 weeks. I saw your sister (Mrs.McCraith) and Irene when in town: also my nephew and family. I am feeling better but not as well as I expected to be. However, I am enjoying myself in a quiet sort of way, notwithstanding that I am "Sine Spe" so far as the family luck is concerned.
With kind regards
Yours sincerely
E.H.V. Dunbar
A SECOND MARGINAL NOTE :- The word Killigrew signifies "The Wood of the Eagles", or "The Eagle of the Wood", only found that out last week.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Drouin, Victoria
, sent a letter dated 27 October 1911 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. c/- Mr E Wolff, Railway Avenue, Drouin
27-10-11
Dear Cousin,
I return you E. Stott's letter of 13 Sept. last: it is worth keeping: he is one of the few sensible members of the family born within the last 100 years. As I have already told you, there is no fact connected with the D--Killw. history, with which I am aquainted, that I have not related to you or George or both. I have spent a great deal of time both reading and writing on the matter, and have now finished with it, excepting so far as I will answer any questions put to me: but I am taking no further trouble. E. Stott and George K.D. are the two who may be able to do something in the future. The former as a lawyer will find out something definite in all probability, but that it will benefit any of the family is in my opinion extremely doubtful. However, let us remain Sub Spe if Sine expectatione (do not know if this is good Latin)
I do not think that I shall be able to visit you as I must go on another long trip to near the N.S.W. border, due north of Melbourne, and I cannot do both journeys. I am pressed now for both time and money. I had to have a long rest in Sydney and am having another rest in Drouin.
Hoping we will meet under happy auspices someday in the near future & with best wishes for you & yours,
I am, Sincerely yours,
E.H.V. Dunbar
PS I knew Dora's mother & grandfather in Ireland
MARGINAL NOTE:- The Rev. J. Dunbar willed all he had (or might be entitled to) to his daughter Frances: Dora is her only child and heiress. NB You & Dora must come before any other members of the family.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD
, sent a letter dated 1 January 1912 to Jessie Adeline Dunbar. Nambour, Queensland. 1-1-12
Dear Cousin Jean
Many thanks for your greetings, the first to reach me this year: and I may add that this is the first note written by me this year.
As you see by the above address, I have got back to Nambour Town and am glad of the same, not that Nambour is a very delightful locality, but because I am having a delightful rest.
I have had a thorough overhauling at the hands of my Doctor and he tells me that the trouble for which he treated me last July has disappeared and I am - for my age - fairly sound in wind and limb.
I feel now that I could enjoy a slice of the Killigrew estate if it were to come my way, and I am all the sorrier that I can only regard it as a castle in the air.
I have had my photograph taken and expect the copies in a day or two, when I shall send you one instead of a New Year's card.
Wishing you all a prosperous year,
Very sincerely yours,
E.H.V. Dunbar
Tell your father a "prerogative will" is one which deals with properties in 2 or more dioceses or Counties. George Dunbar's will (1807) probably dealt with properties in Carlow, Fermanagh, Cornwall, Devon and, I believe, Lincolnshire, besides other places. Perhaps there is no harm in hopinq but blessed are the that expect nothing and are not sorry when they get it.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD
, sent a letter dated 11 February 1912 to John Thomas Killigrew Dunbar. Nambour, Queensland, 11-2-12
Dear Cousin,
J. Stott's address is 19 Spencer Grove Glenferrie. I am sorry that we did not meet last year, but I had to go to Gippsland and also to Picola, and neither my health or my pocket would allow me to get to Penshurst which really meant another long journey. Had you been either on the Drouin or Goulbourn line I could have managed. It is to be hoped that one of us gets a windfall some day before the other dies, then we will have a glass together. (Mine is John Jameison when I can get it.) But seriously, I do not expect to ever again have a ten-pound note to spare on a holiday.
There has been no news from England since I wrote last, and I do not expect any in the future, until I hear that Preston or Brenardy has taken up, at his own risk, whatever may be connected with the Killigrew property.
I forget if I ever sent you a photograph (of myself) some years ago. I got no acknowledgment from Jean that she got the postcard. Perhaps she was disappointed in my appearance.
Kind regards to all, Yours sincerely,
E.H.V. Dunbar.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD
, sent a letter dated 22 October 1912 to Edward Henry Hussey Stott. My dear Ted
Just a few lines to let you know how I seem to be. After having had 32 visits (June-Sept) from the Doctor I was able to resume work 6 weeks age and have been at it every day without any break and have not experienced any unusual effects. So probably I turned the corner and may get thro' a couple of years on salary. After that I may hang out for an average time. I consulted the leading Brisbane Dr. He told me I would have to live according to rule and to bear in mind that I am over 60 as well as over 50. Let Mother know and tell her to write to Jeannie.
Did the Ceylon man call to see you? Did John of Penshurst send you his photograph? I hear from all the Australian branches fairly regularly, as represented by some 6 individuals, Of course there are some of the family I do not want to see until the Killigrew millions are divided amongst us. I would give all my share of those same millions for £2000 now. With that sum I might and probably should, enjoy another 20 years life and fair heath. The teaching may cause my collapse at any time. Teaching is not pleasant under ordinary circumstances, but owing to changes in the curriculum here during the past 8 or 9 years, it has become anticipatory of Hell to the older teachers, more specially the Irishmen of the service.
Love to all. Let me have a few lines acknowledging this.
Your affectionate uncle
E H V Dunbar
[To] E H H Stott, 41 Sholebroke View, Leeds.
Edward died on 24 February 1913 in Maud Street, Nambour, Queensland
, aged 63. Death of Mr E H V Dunbar: Though the late respected head master of Nambour State School had been in indifferent health for a couple of years back, it was not until about a fortnight ago that it was realized that his end was likely at any moment While in Brisbane, as already reported, he was the subject of a heart seizure, from which he rallied only sufficiently to enable him to be carried to Nambour, where, under efficient care in nurse Adams private hospital, he could be attended by Dr Penny, and be near his wife and daughter. To be continued. He was buried on 25 February 1913 in Nambour
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He lived with his grandmother Jane Dunbar until her death in 1864, presumably after the early death of his mother. In July 1911 he stated that he has been 37 years in Australia and that he was only 15 when his home was broken up, and an executor robbed him of everything bearing on the history of the family..
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar arrived per "Indus" on 29 December 1874 at Brisbane, Queensland




Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar married Jane Emmeline Ryder on 10 January 1880 in Nudgee, Queensland

Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar was listed in a directory dated from 1890 to 1896 as Ed. V Dunbar, teacher at East Bundaberg, Queensland


Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar was listed in a directory dated 1897 as Ed V Dunbar, teacher at Cairns, Queensland

Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar was listed in a directory dated between 1901 and 1902 at E Bundaberg, QLD

Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar was listed in a directory dated between 1906 and 1907 as A V E Dunbar, teacher at Middle Ridge, Toowomba, Queensland

The Toowoomba chronicle reported on 18 Dec 1906: 'Historical sketches' From the Citizen Publishing Coy, Ruthven St, comes a booklet entitled 'Sketches from English, Irish and Scottish history' by E H V Dunbar. Of the author it has bee said 'a keen student of history and an orater of no mean ability, Mr E H V Dunbar has acquired considerable popularity by his lectures, which have been delivered to various associations embracing all shades of religious and political opinions. At the request of a large number of admirers, extracts from these lectures are now issued in booklet form'. The excerpts are extremely interesting as British history well told always is. There are 22 subjects treated. The Sketches are published at one shilling.
Sketches from Irish history: Mr E H V Dunbar, the well-known and popular lecturer on Celtic subjects will deliver a lecture in the Hibernian Hall tongiht at 8 o'clock. An invitation is cordially extended to all, especially the lady folk. His worship the mayor (Alderman E J Gedsall) will occupy the chair. The opportunity will be seised by members of the local Hibernian Society, to place on record their esteem and appreciation of Mr Dunbar, ere he takes his departure from Toowoomba.
. Edward between 1907 and 1913, The Rural School, Nambour, Queensland

Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar was listed in a directory dated from 1908 to 1914 at Nambour, Queensland

Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD

Dear Cousin John,
I expected to hear from you, but possibly you thought it would do if the girls wrote: and it does perhaps do just as well. However, I wanted to let you know (or remind you as the case may be) of 2 or 3 matters which you as heir-at-law ought to bear in mind.
The most important to my mind, that the Arwenack case 28 (or so) years ago was a test-case and the decision of the Chancellor in that case would probably apply to the rest of the Killigrew property, and as that property may be worth anything up to a million, you ought to get into communication with all your relatives. Perhaps the Ceylon Dunbars may be well off and could afford to make enquiries.
I could get 12 months leave of absence (on half pay) at any time, but then I could not afford to go home as I have no money saved, in any case I am too old to care to spend any money on what could not benefit me for some years to come, and that would be "Too Late".
Another and important fact that the value of the Arwenack property was divided among all the then living descendants of Major J.K. Dunbar. Today there are only the descendants of 3 sons alive. The Reverend John's, Frederick's, and Henry's.
In '81 or '82 Clara (Charles' daughter) and Mary (George's) were alive but unmarried and too old to have children if later married. George and Charles had no other issue.
Should there be any information in my power to give you I shall be most happy to do so.
I think that you should write to Philpott (if he is alive): I do not say that you should spend any money further than that what buys postage stamps & paper, but you need not be sparing of your time.
Your cousin E.H.V. Dunbar
My only brother (died unmarried) was W.T. Killigrew Dunbar. Are you Killigrew? I have a seal given by Charles II to Lady Killigrew. In our house at home we had a beautiful Cabinet given by the same lively monarch to Killigrew himself. Also a spinning wheel given by Charles to Killigrew or some other ancestral connection.
Of course, the whole business may be a dream, but still there is the Arwenack case and Philpot evidently took all risks. Had the decision been the other way, he would have lost (seemingly) £300 certain to £600 possibly.
And for the past 80 years all relatives have been convinced of the reality of the Dunbar claims whatever their notion of the value of the property. You understand that I lived with my grandmother (the Major's widow) generally 'till 1864 when she died (she had her marriage settlement annuity from '52 to '64). I knew Captain Fred intimately '79 to '90 (I think). I met the Rev. John (your grandfather): even George I stayed with in Paris as a child. I was 15 when my father died. So you will infer that I must have heard a good deal (true or exaggerated) about the family. Charles' daughter (Clara) lived as my father's ward in our home from '57 'til1 that home broke up in '65.
Lastly, the infernal law suit led directly or indirectly to the ruin of all of us in Ireland
E.H.V.D
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Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD

My dear Cousin,
Let me in the first place let you know who I am. I sent a copy of pedigree of later generations to your daughter Alice. If you refer to that you will see that I am the eldest son of Henry Hussey Vivian Dunbar the youngest son by second wife of your great-grandfather. He was chief clerk of the Irish Education Department. My mother (nee Anna Caddell) was an heiress on a small scale. Both my parents died young one in 1863 the other in '65. The Revd. John was at my father's deathbed, a hale old man while my poor father was 42 and a broken hearted wreck. (the curse of the big lawsuit indirectly responsible for the wreck.)
I will be happy to give you any information I can, "free, gratis, and for nothing" and I assume that you would be fairly generous to your kinsmen if you came in for a million more or less. But as I am over 60 years of age I would not take any active part for I have nothing saved. Of course I could get leave of absence at any time but it would be without pay. (at least after 6 months)
I should tell you I am, (so far as I know), the only member of the Dunbar family in Australia that was born in Ireland. I knew your grandfather (and have one or two of his letters even now). I knew (Captain) Frederick very well. From him I got 2 seals, one given by Charles II to Lady Killigrew, the other said to have been worn by John Dunbar (aide de camp to Marlboro' ). Clara, daughter of Charles (killed at Arrah) and I were brought up together from 1857 to '65. So you will see that I know more of the family than anyone living. All the same I do not know as much as I would like to know.
I have written to a nephew of mine (a son of my sister) whose address is: 115 Falconer St., Clifton Hill. Melbourne
He will probably take a niece down to see you. I just got his address from his mother in England. He is a fine young fellow, but has not been more successful than the rest of his Kin for the last 80 years. I know nothing about him since he was a boy.
You might let me have the address of the Ceylon people. The Major's first wife was a Cork woman, and probably the Ceylon cousin does not know that the Dunbars did not live there. For years we owned Ballycarney in Carlow but were never regarded as a South of Ireland family.
I will try and get to Melbourne at Xmas but in the mean time shall be glad to correspond with you. I am in correspondence with Cousin Dora whose mother I knew personally 50 years ago in Dublin.
Your brother George, I corresponded with for some time in a casual way. I had a letter from him shortly before his death in the Gulf Country.
Your aunt, Elizabeth Dobson was married from my father's house I believe about 1849.
With Kindest regards to all your family, Yours sincerely, EHV Dunbar
PS If we meet, I shall tell you how I came down in the world, or rather how never got up. I was only a boy when my father died. The family would seem to have had a curse on it for over 100 years. Let us hope that the curse will lift before long.
Until I was 15 years of age I was a gentleman by education association and parentage: so you may infer that in my communication with my relatives I am not actuated by any business motives whatever. Of course I would be delighted to go home with you as a witness provided my expenses were paid, but then I could not pay my own expenses without beggaring myself.
(NOTE:- The following is written on the back of the first page of this letter. From the size of writing and its position, it was an addition after the letter had been folded.)
Did you know your uncle Tom died only a few months age in Queensland. I did not know that he was alive & in Qld. Neither did uncle Fred nor his family. The curse again
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Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar received a letter from Edward Henry Hussey Stott dated 11 October 1910.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD

Dear Cousin,
In the first place I wish you to understand that I am not at all offended at anything you wrote in your 1st letter to me. But it seemed possible that you might be under the impression that I would be actuated by business motives - to some extent at least in connection with the Killigrew-Dunbar property (if such have an existance), and I wished to remove that impression. Whatever information I can give you you are welcome to, without stipulations. Of course I am a poor man with the prospect of dying in receipt of the old age pension. Should you become a millionaire I would (expect ..deleted) hope that, for the credit of the name, you would act generously to your poor relations.
The great point that I wish you to keep in mind is -- that Philpott 30 years ago gained the Arwenack case and that the money was divided among the then living representatives of Major J.K. Dunbar. My two sisters got each as her share seven pounds: (Owing to a clause in my father's will they got my share between them). Your aunt Fanny (Mrs. Nichols) got a larger share than any other member owing to the Rev. J. K. Dunbar' s ( her father ) wil1. Captain Fred. K. Dunbar (the Major's only living son at the time) got £14-0-0. The shares were awarded by the court. The lawyers (on each side) got £600 between them. I have a copy of the taxed bill of costs. All this is matter of facts not of supposition.
By the way, John Stott (my nephew) remembers going with his mother to Philpott's office, tho' he had forgotten the reasons for her visit.
I might also tell you that Edw. Stott (Jack's eldest brother) has in his possession a rough draft of a sale of land at Chelmsford (A MARGINAL NOTE:- "in Essex") over 100 years ago, signed by George K. Dunbar, John K. Dunbar, and Lord Dover.
So far as my memory servs me Major J.K. D. served a writ of ejectment on Lord Loftus in connection with a property in Devonshire, in about 1806. Again I have a dim idea that Lt.Normanton, Lt.Clifden (or both) advanced a considerable sum of money to my grandfather to carry on the case or rather cases, for there were many properties involved.
The Arwenack case is the great point to be borne in mind. Should you have the opportunity, get some opinion on it. Submit it to Preston or some agency firm.
With Kind regards
Yours sincerely
E.H.V Dunbar
P.S. Do not be tempted to spend any money, as Arwenack even may have been connected with fraud tho there is no reason to think so. Write soon.
I am doubtful about the Ceylon man being one of the family. Let me know when you next hear from him. What is the town he lives near? You did not write it distinctly. Is it Kotogala?
E.H.V.D.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Hawthorn, Victoria

Dear Cousin John,
I enclose copy of pedigree: It may convey some information: You need not return it. I regret that I cannot manage to visit Penshurst. Next year I shall have more time at my disposal & hope we shall meet.
J. Stott is my sister's son: I am visiting him today. With Kind regards and best wishes for a happy Xmas,
Yours sincerely,
E .H.V. Dunbar
Address your next to Nambour. I hope to be home in 10 days.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Dandenong, Victoria, Australia

Dandenong, 23-12-10
Dear John,
I am with cousin Dora for a few days. I have gone thro' many of her old letters: my doubts have been increased by 2 or 3 of these. In one from Philpott he states that Martin Killigrew willed so much to George Dunbar of that ilk: I was under the impression that Mr.K had died intestate: this makes a very big difference in my opinion. Again Halahan never believed that anything else would come to the family in connection with the Killigrew property, and H. was evidently a clever man.
I saw Lloyd (the younger) for a few minutes, his father is away on a holiday: I gave him my address. L., like myself, wonders why Philpott did not go on with the case. It would evidently have paid him, (indecipherable word) by his costs in the Arwenack suit. This to my mind is a serious consideration.
In all the correspondence that Dora has, there is nothing tangible: all statements referring to the K. property are inferential or traditionary. I do not see one fact in all this correspondence that would have weight, except as collateral evidence. There are also a number of contradictory statements. Why you heard nothing from Philpott re Arwenack seems to be owing to his thinking the Rev. John's elder children were illegitimate.
With kind regards and best wishes for a happy Xmas & New Year.
Yours sincerely
E.H.V. Dunbar
P.S. Curious to say, I and brother and sisters were wards in chancery in 1865 or '66, but have heard nothing from the court since I got notice of the fact in the year mentioned. But why we were so I do not know. My mother was an heiress on a small scale. I believe that I am heir to 5 small properties, (mortgaged) but they are not worth much. However they may in the future bring in £40-0-0 per.annum
to my daughter. All of my mother's family (myself included) received $100 each some 20 years ago, most unexpectedly, out of an intestate estate in America. There was no trouble in connection with this. One fine morning I got a letter from the clerk of intestate estates in N.Y. telling me there was $100 to my credit in Bundaberg on proof of identity. I went to the bank and signed for the amount there and then & got it. Never had any other official communication. A pity the Dunbar -- kW. dividends do not come in a similar manner.
NOTE: - The next half page or 12 lines are missing. The letter continues on the last page ....
/ ....... I see that your family are R.C. Strange that 4 (at least) of the Dunbars living should have married into that faith. My mother too reverted before her death: her brother married a niece (I think) of Cardinal Cullen, and his family are of that faith.
I have also a niece, by marriage, who is now Superioress of a Convent in Virginia (US).
What must our Garrison Ancestors think of their descendants if they occasionally look down ? They must flap wings very angrily I should think.
E.H.V.D.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD

Dear Cousin John,
I was in Dandenong for a few days and while there read, or rather got the gist of some 200 letters in cousin Dora's possession. Nothing tangible in these by themselves. By the way, I met your brother-in-law and enjoyed a very pleasant hour or so with him. He said he was going to see you shortly. Dora has since sent me notice of his mother's death.
The following pieces of information I have received since I wrote to you from Dandenong:--
1. De Bernardy's agent (Sydney) is in communication (personally) with your nephew George Kw.
2. It seems that the heirs of Major K. Dunbar have been advertised for.
3. George Dunbar owned 2 properties (one in London & one in Chelmsford, Essex) which were qambled away probably in 1791.
4. Martin KiIIigrew of Arwenack willed certain properties (including the 2 mentioned in 3) to George Dunbar and his heirs. The will is dated 1743. The legatee succeeded to these in 1744.
Now it was Arwenack property that was divided amongst several of us in 1887, presumably under this will of 1743, as it was from a property of said Martin Killigrew of Arwenack.
So far as I see, you as heir-at-law, would inherit any Irish estate that may exist. As to the Killigrew properties there is seemingly something different, as the Arwenack property was, as I have already said, divided among all then known decendants. I and my sisters getting shares. Captain Fred. K. the only surving son (of the Major's) got £14-0-0. I and my sisters got £14-0-0 (my father's share ) between us. Apparently the Chancellor decreed or assented to this division. My father was the only child of the 2nd marriage declared eligible to receive a share.
The story is not a savory one, taking it in its legal aspect. It would seem however that my grandfather married his 2nd wife 1stly with French Jersey or Scotch law, and 2ndly, some years before my father was born he again married her with Church of England rites. At any rate, she had her jointure out of the Garrison Estate which would imply that the Major considered her his wife from the first, or long before the C.of E. ceremony. I lived with her 'till 1864; and as I think I have already told you, Captain Charles Dunbar's orphan daughter was placed in her charge in 1857, which the War Office would hardly have allowed had there been any doubts as to the marriage. And certainly your grandfather and the HalIahans did not oppose the arrangement. Again, my younger brother and sister lived at Ballybay Rectory for a long time after my father's death in '65.
Your uncle Tom shortly before his death sent a message to George in Sydney to the effect that he never wanted to see or hear of a Dunbar again.
So far as my memory serves me the 1st step taken by the Major on leaving the army in 1804 was to serve a writ of ejectment on Lord Loftus to quit a property in Devonshire. So I take it that the Killigrew -- Dunbar property was spread over Cornwall, London, Essex, and Devonshire. Possibly in Staffordshire and Lincoln. Of course, this is only memory, I have no writing to show.
I give you all the information I am possessed of. Until 1883 or so I had only a historian's interest in the family history. Now I regard it as not impossible that you, or perhaps all of us, may benefit by our descent.
With Kindest regards to you all and best wishes for a prosperous year,
I am,
Very sincerely yours,
E.H.V. Dunbar
Thank Jean for her Xmas card.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD

Dear Cousin,
I enclose herewith part of a letter received from my nephew, Edward Stott: he was brought up to the law, but left it for a commercial occupation. The information may be of some use to you; useful or not, it will be of interest to you as one of the family.
As I have written to you twice -- this is my 3rd letter -- since I heard from you, I shall not write again unless it be, as in this present case, to give you some fresh information which you are not likely to get from any other source. Of course, when you do write, I shall be only too pleased to reply.
Remember that 3 intelligent members of the family are under no delusions re the property -- (your humble servant, George K. (Sydny) & Edward Stott) You are heir-at-law, and must be, for that reason, the principle party concerned in all or any legal issues.
With best wishes, and Kind regards to your family,
I remain, Sincerely yours
E.H.V. Dunbar
P.S. Keep the enclosed.
Did I tell you that Bernardy's agent has interviewed Cousin George in Sydney?.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar received a letter from Edward Henry Hussey Stott dated 15 February 1911. 5 Belvedere Rd, Bexley Heath,
15th Feb 1911
Dear Uncle,
Thanks very much for your letter of the 7th ulto. to Fairview and our p'card to Brentwood -- both to hand by last mail.
I was (in common with all of us at home) interested and pleased to learn that you had managed to meet Jack, and are favourably impressed with him, his wife, and children. By a letter received this week, Jack informs Mother how delighted he was to meet you; it must indeed have been to him as a fresh bond with Home.
am obliged by the information given in the rough table of the Major's descendants. His matrimonial affairs certainly appear somewhat con. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Apparently, then, the . . . . . . . . . . . .??issue of his second marriage .... ipeten.. to share in any distribution of Estate, would be your father, the latter's interest of course, vested in his descendants. You say the marriage between the Major and your grandmother was not originally celebrated according to C.of E. rites. It occurs to me that if the marriage was celebrated in Jersey it might have been necessary (to conform with the existing laws of succession in vogue here) for the marriage to have been confirmed in the United Kingdom. I cannot suppose that a recognised .......... did not later place somewhere ........... the birth of Patrick D. ..., ............ your statement that Phillpott declared that your & his , ........... issue were the only descendants of the second marriage who could participate in the distribution of 1886 (?). Clears up a point that puzzles me. I wondered why the issue of Patrick & Mrs Delassert (Delassent ?) had not participated. Assuming they knew of the distribution, these descendants evidently accepted the position -- or did they attempt to asset themselves in any way? Then again it would follow that if there was any irregularity in the Major's second marriage, and Philpott's view is held to be correct, (and on this ........ would doubtless have ...... doubly sure before distribut ..... all the children (of the second marriage) ........... barred from participating in any future fund available. Have you any idea of what the property (the subject of our correspondance) consists?
If of land (real property in general) then we may conclusively say that the Penshust man will get it all; if of personal property of any description, then according to English Law, the descendants of John, George, Charles, Fred & HHV will divide equally. You say ........ "it may yet be div ......... the descendants of ......... & HHV". Why omit the ....... Charles D. & (Cara D.) of ...... Charles ? Surely ........... not debarred from participation in personal Estate! Perhaps you know of some legal disability attaching to sex which seems to be jolly rough on them! Put us right, please, on this point.
Now as to De Bernardy's enquiry. I know their firm wouldn't interest themselves without the prospect of some definite pecuniary advantage attaching! They are expert at matters of this sort ie. next-of-kin business. And from the fact of the agent searching descendants other than the heir-at-law George K of Sydney, I observe from your list, is a nephew of John K. of Penshust -- and ......... fore ...... not in the direct line of succession to Real .......... - (or John K. I believe you said has sons) it would appear that a general distribution is within the bounds of possibility. I shall doubtless hear further from you on this point when you have received George K's promised letter. Hope I have made myself clear and have not been unduly redundant.
NOTE : - The letter finishes here with no signature. Perhaps this is the "part of a letter" refered to in the letter Dunbar E-9, dated 23-3-11.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD

Dear Cousin,
You must bear in mind that I know nothing whatever of Killigrew property further than what I have already told you. Until 1887 (?) it was simply a legend to me that Anne Killigrew had left a great estate that came to George Dunbar in (about) the middle of the 18th Century and was lost to the family later on. As a boy in Ireland I understood that some part of the Irish Estates might revert to the heir-at-law, (then the Rev. John Dunbar) He for reasons best known to himself made no move in the matter: he does not seem even to have given any information to his sons. One point perhaps might be useful for you to know ie. that my grandmother had her marriage jointure paid 'till her death in 1864, I believe out of the Garrison Estate: she actually received £200 per annum.
I shal1 give you any information I may receive in the future: I will answer any questions so far as I am able to do so. But so far, you are as well aquainted with the whole story as I am. Your brother George seems to have had legal advice relating to the property, but his family know no particulars. In fact his son did not attach any significance to the name Killigrew 'till I wrote to him. By the way, do you know how he came to give his daughter "Vivian" as a baptismal name ?
I have written to Joseph Dunbar (a marginal note states "The Ceylon planter") but I feel sure that he is not a descendant of my grandfather: if a kinsman, it is thro' a much earlier forbear. He is going to England shortly and I gave him Edw. Stott's address and advised him to call and see him. Stott (who is my sister's eldest son) has had considerable legal training, tho' he left it for mercantile pursuits. He is, I consider, a clever fellow with a very logical turn of mind. By the way, you might get into correspondance with him: he is on the ground as it were. You might also address him as "cousin" for you are 2nd cousins.
I trust you will understand that I have no possible reason for keeping back anything from you. As heir-at-law you must be consulted by any lawer who may interest himself in the case. You will possibly get all of anything that may come of legal proceedings.
I may tell you that my work is harder than ever it has been, and I have less energy and ability to do it, and worse still I have absolutely no money saved. (My wife has a little of her own to live on). So you will infer that I have neither time nor money to spend on what may really be a myth or what might be of no benefit to me in any case.
Excuse haste: I am writing also to George (Sydney) and to Dora. If I had a shilling for every half-hour I have spent in letter writing-connected with the family history I would be a rich man, of course, the value of stamps and note-paper included.
With Kind regards to your wife & family,
Yours sincerely,
E.H.V. Dunbar.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD

Dear Cousin John,
I enclose letter received from my nephew, E.E.H. Stott. It may interest you to read it. You can burn it when read, or at least you need not return it. I should have said "part of a letter", the other part had no bearing on the Killigrew-Dunbar business.
You will note that I believe that both Mary and Clara are dead and certainly had no issue.
Yours in haste and with kind regards,
E. H. V. Dunbar.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD

Dear Cousin,
Yours of the 11 inst. to hand. I wish to heaven that I knew what & where the Killigrew properties were or are: as I have already told you the only tangible part of the case is that the Arwenack ... was valued 25 or 6 years ago and the value legally awarded to members of the family - including among others, my father's children. That is the only distinctly and unequivacally tanqible information I possess. Were it not for that case, I would not give a second thought to the matter except as an interesting historical mystery. I see that Philpott the lawer who first moved in the case died a few weeks ago. Curious that his death should occur coincident with the revival of enquiries.
De Bernardy's agent left Sydney for Home last month. All the information George (your nephew) gave him was what he, George, had from me. That information, in substance I have given to you, Dora Wolff, and my nephews Edw. & John Stott.
Personally I am "Sub spe attainem sine expectatione" (under hope, but without expectations) Hope with a small h.
By the way, it may interest you to know that Lady Jane Kil1igrew of Arwenack, a worthy forebear, was condemned to be hanged for piracy, robbery, and murder, but got off her hanging. One of her victims cursed her and her descendants for ever and a day. The Chronicler of the incident believed that the curse would stick. Another curse was placed on the descendants of Earl Patrick (time 600 years ago): But this was only to hold good for a certain period, not particularized.
So you can see that we are handicapped on two sides, which is rather hard luck! The invocations occurred in connection with the Old Faith. Perhaps as so many of the family are reverting to that Faith, the curses may work themselves out; let us hope that the heretic members may benefit with the orthodox ones, when the luck turns. I think I told you that my mother "turned" before her death.
I hope Dorothy will succeed in passing her examination. Teaching is splendid for a girl.
Kind regards and best wishes,
Yours sincerely
E. H. V. Dunbar.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD

Dear Cousin John,
Just a few lines to let you know I got yours of 7 April and to let you have my nephew's address as you intimate a desire to write to him, which I have let him know. His name is Edward Henry Hussey Stott. His address is
Mr. E. H. H. Stott
5 Belvedere Road
Bexley Heath
Kent
England
De Bernardy's agent here got all particulars that G.K.D. could give him, and is now on his way to England.
Did you ever write to Preston ? He seems to be the best known of all the agents. It could do no harm to communicate with him.
Excuse short letter, I am not feeling very well for the past week or so. "Dingo" possibly.
Kindest regards to all your people,
Yours sincerely
E.H.V. Dunbar
A clipping from a newspaper is attached to the origional. It is an advertisement for missing heirs and kindred. None of those mentioned refer to the Dunbar/Killigrew business, but the reply address is that of the PRESTON who is mentioned frequently in these letters
MISSING HEIRS AND KINDRED.--The estate of Mary Ellison, of Wigan, has fallen to his Majesty the King, in right of his Duchy of Lancaster -------------------etc
For further particulars write:- Sidney H. Preston, 27 Chancery Lane, London W.C..
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD

Dear Cousin,
I am glad that you have written to Edward Stott. He has the best head of this generation of Dunbars. He is now resuming the study and practice of the law, which he should never have given up. By the way address him as cousin, for his mother and your father were 1st cousins.
I did not see reference to the action of certain of the nobility searching records of oversea families etc.: I fear you overate my ability in connection with the family business. Remember I have been 37 years in Australia, that I was only 15 when my home was broken up, and that an Executor robbed me of everything bearing on the history of the family (that Executor was, it is supposed, hanged in Paris in '71. There is today awating him or his son £40,000.
I shall probably be in Victoria in October, when I hope we shall meet.
I am not very well, having the same bothersome cold sticking to me: I had symptoms of gout many years ago, but by sticking religiously to good whiskey (Jamieson's when I can get it) I got rid of the symptoms, now the tendancy seems to be asthmatic.
Kind regards to wife and daughters,
Yours sincerely E.H.V. Dunbar.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD

Dear Cousin John,
I had a letter from Ted Stott today. Since he wrote to you he had a letter from Preston stating that he, Preston, had communicated with you in a letter dated June 7th. Ted might be able to get on the right track if you sent him the gist of Preston's letter to you and if he could get ditto of Bernardy's inquiries (thro' his agent) in Sydney, from George.
My long leave began July 1st. I went to Bundaberg, intending to put in a month there, but got sick the first week and had to come home on the 17th inst. and here I am, an invalid; some heart trouble, but probably not organic. The Dr. in Bundaberg visited me 6 times: The Dr. here, a good man luckily, is attending me and says a few weeks rest will put me right: but my dancing days are done, and I have to eschew tobacco, whiskey, and other deleterious decoctions, as well as all doubtful company. Hard luck, just as I was going to enjoy the first holiday in 37 years. Well, I have had a fair innings tho' I should have done better at the game. Never mind, there is many a better man a darned sight worse off. With this rather inelegant expression and best wishes,
I am
Yours sincerely
E.H.V. Dunbar.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD

Dear Cousin,
Yours of 2nd inst. to hand. I am now out of the Doctor's hands, and shall start South about the end of the month. If Preston had anything tangible to go on he would have communicated with you long ago. Philpott took up the Arwenack case on his own responsibility and at his own risk. Preston has probably 12 adverts. referring to Major J.K. Dunbar and his descendants, but equally probably not one would be worth anything to you. I have seen half-a-dozen at least, but they were inquiries such as we are making now.
G.K. of Sydney seems a self-reliant and level headed young fellow. De Bernardy's agent interviewed him some time ago, but I do not know any particulars.
Ted Stott has all the information I can give him. You must bear in mind that I have no family documents, and that I left home when a boy, and have had no intercourse with the former generations of Dunbars for 40 years, excepting with Uncle Fred. (Captain), and the information from him was interesting rather than useful. He like the rest of us could give no definite information. Cousin Dora sent me a letter she had last month from your cousin Elizabeth at home (the Parson's wife): she certainly holds no expectations, and seemingly knows nothing whatsoever of the Killigrew property, tho' she has heard at different times of great sums that should have come to the family: but evidently never got particulars.
Let us hope that E. Stott will get on the track, if track there be, or better still, that Preston or some other lawyer will find out there is something to go on and go.
With best wishes,
Yours sincerely,
E.H.V. Dunbar
A MARGINAL POSTSCRIPT: Do not be tempted to spend money on Preston's word: If they be worth anything he will act you may be sure.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Drouin, Victoria

23-10-11
Dear Cousin,
I have been hunting up, both in Sydney and Melbourne Public Libraries, books for information re Dunbars and their connections. I obtained a lot of more or less interest. One item I consider important. In the "Index to Prerogative Wills of Ireland" edited by Sir A. Vicars is placed "The will of George Dunbar" dated 1807. This as I take it is the will which led to the final downfall of the family in Ireland. I have sent this information home to E. Stott. (A MARGINAL NOTE:- "Only the name of the testator (with place and date) is given: nothing of the contents)
There is also in same book "The Will of John Dunbar, Ballycarney, Co. Carlow, dated 1724." This presumably also our ancestor of that ilk.
Again here is indexed "The Will of John Dunbar, Dublin 1764" who may or may not have been the father of George Dunbar aforementioned.
"Prerogative" Wills are (or were) of great importance and are kept, apparently, under special circumstances. None have been named since 1850, or thereabouts. The term is a technical one, and I do not know its meaning.
There is a very full account of the KiIligrew families in "Cornish Worthies" by Tregallis in Melbourne Library.
Anne, widow of H. Agar was George Dunbar's 1st wife. The daughter and heiress of the last of the Killigrews (mainline) was his 2nd wife by whom he had one son John Killigrew Dunbar born in Dublin: 16 May 1769. This last paragraph is complied from a book, also in the Melbourne Library entitled "Members of Parliament for Kilkenny" by Burtchell. From this book I conclude that during the 18th century the Dunbars spent nearly all their time in Carlow & Kilkenny & Dublin City, and had comparatively little to do with Fermanagh. And I further conclude that for the past 50 years that the members of the family know little or nothing about their forebears. Even Captain Fred. whom I knew intimately for 12 or 13 years did not know anything of Arwenack or Chelmsford properties. Like the others, he knew that there had been property but did not know any particulars. He believed too, that Philpott was not honest, that the Arwenack business was a fraud in fact.
Unless the will of 1807 gives something definite to go on, I shall regard the Millions as mythical.
Taylor, (De Bernardy's agent) will be back from England next week, but I fancy that he would have written at once had he anything to write about. I shall not see him.
I am staying with Cousin Dora at present and shall be here for 2 or 3 weeks. I saw your sister (Mrs.McCraith) and Irene when in town: also my nephew and family. I am feeling better but not as well as I expected to be. However, I am enjoying myself in a quiet sort of way, notwithstanding that I am "Sine Spe" so far as the family luck is concerned.
With kind regards
Yours sincerely
E.H.V. Dunbar
A SECOND MARGINAL NOTE :- The word Killigrew signifies "The Wood of the Eagles", or "The Eagle of the Wood", only found that out last week.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Drouin, Victoria

27-10-11
Dear Cousin,
I return you E. Stott's letter of 13 Sept. last: it is worth keeping: he is one of the few sensible members of the family born within the last 100 years. As I have already told you, there is no fact connected with the D--Killw. history, with which I am aquainted, that I have not related to you or George or both. I have spent a great deal of time both reading and writing on the matter, and have now finished with it, excepting so far as I will answer any questions put to me: but I am taking no further trouble. E. Stott and George K.D. are the two who may be able to do something in the future. The former as a lawyer will find out something definite in all probability, but that it will benefit any of the family is in my opinion extremely doubtful. However, let us remain Sub Spe if Sine expectatione (do not know if this is good Latin)
I do not think that I shall be able to visit you as I must go on another long trip to near the N.S.W. border, due north of Melbourne, and I cannot do both journeys. I am pressed now for both time and money. I had to have a long rest in Sydney and am having another rest in Drouin.
Hoping we will meet under happy auspices someday in the near future & with best wishes for you & yours,
I am, Sincerely yours,
E.H.V. Dunbar
PS I knew Dora's mother & grandfather in Ireland
MARGINAL NOTE:- The Rev. J. Dunbar willed all he had (or might be entitled to) to his daughter Frances: Dora is her only child and heiress. NB You & Dora must come before any other members of the family.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD

Dear Cousin Jean
Many thanks for your greetings, the first to reach me this year: and I may add that this is the first note written by me this year.
As you see by the above address, I have got back to Nambour Town and am glad of the same, not that Nambour is a very delightful locality, but because I am having a delightful rest.
I have had a thorough overhauling at the hands of my Doctor and he tells me that the trouble for which he treated me last July has disappeared and I am - for my age - fairly sound in wind and limb.
I feel now that I could enjoy a slice of the Killigrew estate if it were to come my way, and I am all the sorrier that I can only regard it as a castle in the air.
I have had my photograph taken and expect the copies in a day or two, when I shall send you one instead of a New Year's card.
Wishing you all a prosperous year,
Very sincerely yours,
E.H.V. Dunbar
Tell your father a "prerogative will" is one which deals with properties in 2 or more dioceses or Counties. George Dunbar's will (1807) probably dealt with properties in Carlow, Fermanagh, Cornwall, Devon and, I believe, Lincolnshire, besides other places. Perhaps there is no harm in hopinq but blessed are the that expect nothing and are not sorry when they get it.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD

Dear Cousin,
J. Stott's address is 19 Spencer Grove Glenferrie. I am sorry that we did not meet last year, but I had to go to Gippsland and also to Picola, and neither my health or my pocket would allow me to get to Penshurst which really meant another long journey. Had you been either on the Drouin or Goulbourn line I could have managed. It is to be hoped that one of us gets a windfall some day before the other dies, then we will have a glass together. (Mine is John Jameison when I can get it.) But seriously, I do not expect to ever again have a ten-pound note to spare on a holiday.
There has been no news from England since I wrote last, and I do not expect any in the future, until I hear that Preston or Brenardy has taken up, at his own risk, whatever may be connected with the Killigrew property.
I forget if I ever sent you a photograph (of myself) some years ago. I got no acknowledgment from Jean that she got the postcard. Perhaps she was disappointed in my appearance.
Kind regards to all, Yours sincerely,
E.H.V. Dunbar.
Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar in Nambour, QLD

Just a few lines to let you know how I seem to be. After having had 32 visits (June-Sept) from the Doctor I was able to resume work 6 weeks age and have been at it every day without any break and have not experienced any unusual effects. So probably I turned the corner and may get thro' a couple of years on salary. After that I may hang out for an average time. I consulted the leading Brisbane Dr. He told me I would have to live according to rule and to bear in mind that I am over 60 as well as over 50. Let Mother know and tell her to write to Jeannie.
Did the Ceylon man call to see you? Did John of Penshurst send you his photograph? I hear from all the Australian branches fairly regularly, as represented by some 6 individuals, Of course there are some of the family I do not want to see until the Killigrew millions are divided amongst us. I would give all my share of those same millions for £2000 now. With that sum I might and probably should, enjoy another 20 years life and fair heath. The teaching may cause my collapse at any time. Teaching is not pleasant under ordinary circumstances, but owing to changes in the curriculum here during the past 8 or 9 years, it has become anticipatory of Hell to the older teachers, more specially the Irishmen of the service.
Love to all. Let me have a few lines acknowledging this.
Your affectionate uncle
E H V Dunbar
[To] E H H Stott, 41 Sholebroke View, Leeds.
Edward died on 24 February 1913 in Maud Street, Nambour, Queensland


Children of Edward Henry Vivian Dunbar and Jane Emmeline Ryder
- Florence Vivian Dunbar b. 5 Oct 1881, d. 13 Nov 1913
- Emmaline Mary Vivian Dunbar b. 6 May 1883, d. 29 Nov 1883
- Elsie Vivian Dunbar b. 26 Jun 1885, d. 27 Apr 1886
- daughter Dunbar d. b 1913
Edward William Dunbar
(September 1881 - )
- Charts
- Dunbar descendants
Edward William Dunbar's birth was registered in the quarter ending in September 1881 in Levenshulme, Chorlton RD, Lancashire
. He was the son of Edward Dunbar and Frances (?). Florence and Edward were listed as the children of Edward Dunbar in the 1891 census in Davenport Ave, Withington, Chorlton, Lancashire
.


eight daughters Dunbar
(after 1582 - )
Eight daughters Dunbar was born after 1582. She was the daughter of Gavin Dunbar.
Elizabeth Dunbar
(circa 1675 - )
- Charts
- Dunbar descendants
Elizabeth Dunbar married Unknown Dunne. Elizabeth Dunbar was born circa 1675 in Ireland
. She was the daughter of Major John Dunbar and Catherine Wynne.
Elizabeth Dunbar was mentioned in the will of Major John Dunbar dated 27 May 1724.
Elizabeth Dunbar married Henry Bernard before 1742 in Ireland
. They were mentioned in a deed dated 14 Dec 1743 as Henry & Elizabeth Bernard (Dunbarr) of Rathrush along with Geroge Dunbarr, esq of Garrison, Fermanagh, along with Minchins & others.
Elizabeth Dunbar was mentioned in the will of Ann Dunbar dated 18 June 1747.
Elizabeth Dunbar was mentioned in the will of Mary Dunbar dated 5 August 1769. Elizabeth Dunbar and George Dunbar were beneficiaries in Mary Dunbar's will proved 20 July 1771 in the Prerogative Court of Armagh, Ireland.

Elizabeth Dunbar was mentioned in the will of Major John Dunbar dated 27 May 1724.
Elizabeth Dunbar married Henry Bernard before 1742 in Ireland

Elizabeth Dunbar was mentioned in the will of Ann Dunbar dated 18 June 1747.
Elizabeth Dunbar was mentioned in the will of Mary Dunbar dated 5 August 1769. Elizabeth Dunbar and George Dunbar were beneficiaries in Mary Dunbar's will proved 20 July 1771 in the Prerogative Court of Armagh, Ireland.
Elizabeth Dunbar
(circa 1426 - before 17 February 1485/86)
Elizabeth Dunbar was also known as Agnes in records. Elizabeth Dunbar was also known as Mary in records. She was born circa 1426 in Scotland
. His second daughter Elizabeth, called Mary by some writers and also Agnes. She was the daughter of James Dunbar 4th (7th) Earl of Moray and Katherine or Janet or Margaret Seton (of Gordon).
Elizabeth Dunbar married Archibald Douglas Earl of Moray after August 1434. The marriage occured before 26 April 1442, Archibald Douglas, who was created Earl of Moray.
In 1445 Elizabeth, yr. da. and coh., Countess of Moray succeeded, not - being the younger - suo jure Countess, but by the "extort power" of the then all-powerful family of Douglas, having m., after Aug. 1434, and before 26 Apr. 1442, Archibald, yr. of the twin 2nd and 3rd sons of James (Douglas), 7th Earl of Douglas.
Elizabeth Dunbar married George Gordon 2nd Earl Huntly as her second husband, circa 20 May 1455. She was married by forced contract dated 19 days after her husband's death. They seem to have had no issue, and the marriage was dissolved before 10 March 1459/60. Elizabeth was granted a divorce from George Gordon 2nd Earl Huntly before 10 March 1459/60.
Elizabeth Dunbar married Sir John Colquhoun (of Luss) as her third husband.
Elizabeth died before 17 February 1485/86.

Elizabeth Dunbar married Archibald Douglas Earl of Moray after August 1434. The marriage occured before 26 April 1442, Archibald Douglas, who was created Earl of Moray.
In 1445 Elizabeth, yr. da. and coh., Countess of Moray succeeded, not - being the younger - suo jure Countess, but by the "extort power" of the then all-powerful family of Douglas, having m., after Aug. 1434, and before 26 Apr. 1442, Archibald, yr. of the twin 2nd and 3rd sons of James (Douglas), 7th Earl of Douglas.
Elizabeth Dunbar married George Gordon 2nd Earl Huntly as her second husband, circa 20 May 1455. She was married by forced contract dated 19 days after her husband's death. They seem to have had no issue, and the marriage was dissolved before 10 March 1459/60. Elizabeth was granted a divorce from George Gordon 2nd Earl Huntly before 10 March 1459/60.
Elizabeth Dunbar married Sir John Colquhoun (of Luss) as her third husband.
Elizabeth died before 17 February 1485/86.
Elizabeth Dunbar
( - 11 March 1756)
Elizabeth Dunbar married Sir Robert Gordon 3rd Bart of Gordonstoun as his second wife, between 1678 and 1696. His first wife died in April 1677. By his second marriage they had 3 sons and 4 daughters: William died 18 March 1701, Margaret died 26 Mar 1703 aged 10; Katharin died 18 March 1703 aged 3, Elizabeth died 8 Dec 1705. Elizabeth Dunbar was born. Her father created an entail for his daughter Elizabeth as he had no surving male issue. She was the daughter of Sir William Dunbar 1st Bart of Northfield.
Elizabeth Dunbar married James Sutherland-Dunbar Bart of Hempriggs as her second husband, in 1704 or 1705..
Elizabeth died on 11 March 1756.
Elizabeth Dunbar married James Sutherland-Dunbar Bart of Hempriggs as her second husband, in 1704 or 1705..
Elizabeth died on 11 March 1756.
Children of Elizabeth Dunbar and Sir Robert Gordon 3rd Bart of Gordonstoun
- Lucy Gordon
- Robert Gordon (4th Bart of Gordonstoun) b. 1696, d. 1772
Children of Elizabeth Dunbar and James Sutherland-Dunbar Bart of Hempriggs
- Elizabeth Dunbar+ d. 21 Jul 1800
- Rachel Dunbar
- Sir William Dunbar 2nd Bart of Hempriggs+ b. 1708, d. 12 Jun 1793
- James Dunbar d. 1741
- Janet Dunbar
- Charlotte Dunbar b. 1712
Elizabeth Dunbar
( - 21 July 1800)
Elizabeth Dunbar was the daughter of James Sutherland-Dunbar Bart of Hempriggs and Elizabeth Dunbar.
Elizabeth Dunbar married Eric Sutherland 4th Lord of Duffus, son of Kenneth Sutherland 3rd Lord Duffus and Charlotte Christina Sioblade. He was her cousin.
Elizabeth died on 21 July 1800.
Elizabeth Dunbar married Eric Sutherland 4th Lord of Duffus, son of Kenneth Sutherland 3rd Lord Duffus and Charlotte Christina Sioblade. He was her cousin.
Elizabeth died on 21 July 1800.
Child of Elizabeth Dunbar and Eric Sutherland 4th Lord of Duffus
- James Sutherland 5th Lord Duffus b. 8 Jun 1747, d. 30 Jan 1827
Elizabeth Dunbar
(before 1550 - before September 1566)
Elizabeth Dunbar was born before 1550 in Mochrum, Wigtownshire, Scotland
. She was the daughter of Patrick Dunbar and Margaret Gordon.
Elizabeth died before September 1566. She died unmarried..
Her will was proved on 21 February 1570 at Edinburgh
. Elizabeth Dunbar, daughter to umquhile Patrik Dunbar of Loch.

Elizabeth died before September 1566. She died unmarried..
Her will was proved on 21 February 1570 at Edinburgh

Elizabeth Dunbar
(circa 1700 - 3 June 1746)
She inherited Westfield from her uncle? Ludovic. Elizabeth Dunbar was born circa 1700. She was the only daughter of Alexander Dunbar of Westfield. She was the daughter of Alexander Dunbar.
Elizabeth Dunbar married Sir William Dunbar 2nd Bart of Hempriggs, son of James Sutherland-Dunbar Bart of Hempriggs and Elizabeth Dunbar, on 6 January 1728/29 in Scotland
.
Elizabeth died on 3 June 1746.
Elizabeth Dunbar married Sir William Dunbar 2nd Bart of Hempriggs, son of James Sutherland-Dunbar Bart of Hempriggs and Elizabeth Dunbar, on 6 January 1728/29 in Scotland

Elizabeth died on 3 June 1746.
Child of Elizabeth Dunbar and Sir William Dunbar 2nd Bart of Hempriggs
- Janet Dunbar (Dunbar) (of Westfield)+ d. 16 Sep 1769
Elizabeth Dunbar
(circa 1480 - )
Elizabeth Dunbar was born circa 1480 in Scotland
. She was the daughter of Alexander Dunbar and Janet Sutherland.

Elizabeth Dunbar
(before 1690 - )
Elizabeth Dunbar was born before 1690. She was the daughter of Edward Dunbar.
Elizabeth Dunbar
(say 1380 - after 1438)
Elizabeth Dunbar was born say 1380. She was the daughter of George Dunbar 10th Earl of March and Christiana Wardlaw.
A contract for the marriage of Elizabeth Dunbar and an unknown person was signed on 28 August 1395. A dispensation for Prince David and Elizabeth Dunbar to marry (1395) states: ' Reg. Aven 280, 323v - To the bishops of St Andrews and Brechin. Mandate to dispense David, earl of Carrick, first born of Robert, king of Scotland, to marry the noblewoman Elizabeth, daughter of the nobleman George, earl of March, who although being related in the 3rd degree of consanguinity and in full knowledge of this fact had contracted marriage per verba de futuro, since if this marriage were not to come about grave scandal and dissension would arise.
On 28 August 1395 Pope Benedict XIII. (Antipope) ordered a dispensation to be granted to David, Earl of Carrick (afterwards Duke of Rothesay), first born of Robert, King of Scotland, and Elizabeth, daughter of George, Earl of March, who, knowing themselves to he in the third degree of consanguinity had contracted espousals per verba de futuro, the King's consent being first obtained (Regesta Avinionensia, 290, f. 3236). On 11 March 1396-97 a commission was issued by the same Pope to grant dispensation to the same persons, who had married without banns, copula subsecuta (Ibid, 303 f. 4896). This seems to show that the prince and Elizabeth Dunbar were married, and not only betrothed. The insult to the Earl of March and his family by the Prince's repudiation of Elizabeth was thus much greater than has hitherto been stated.
Elizabeth, betrothed in 1395 to David, Earl of Carrick, who, before 1396, married, and afterwards repudiated her about the year 1400 as stated. At a later date she held the lands of Mordington, in Berwickshire.
The Liber Pluscardensis records the betrothal in 1399 of "dux Rothsay David princeps, primogenitus regis Roberti tercii" and "domina Elizabeth filia domini Georgii de Dunbar comitis Marchiarum" but adding that the marriage did not take place[1622]. Betrothed (contract broken before Feb 1400) to DAVID Stewart Duke of Rothesay, son of ROBERT III King of Scotland & his wife Annabella Drummond (24 Oct 1378-Falkland Castle 26 Mar 1402, bur Lindores Abbey). See http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672007.
On 23 November 1411, Robert Clerkson, master of the Hospital of St Leonard near Perth, renounced it and all his rights in favour of Dame Elizabeth Dunbar, that she may be governor of the hospital, which in time past had been governed by women.' It is said the hospital was suppressed by King James I, but it was not until a year after his death that, on 24 April 1438, Dame Elizabeth resigned all her right to the hospital into the hands of Henry Wardlaw, Bishop of St Andrews, in favour of the Prior and brethren of the Charterhouse of the Vale of Virtue beside Perth. She also delivered up to them all charters and evidents, the prior and convent receiving as brothers and sisters, to their prayers for ever, the bodies and souls, both quick and dead, of, among others, Sir George, Earl of March, Christian, his spouse, Elizabeth Dunbar, their daughter (the granter), Sir George of Dunbar, Earl of March, their son, Sir Columba of Dunbar, Bishop of Moray, Sir Gavin of Dunbar, Patrick of Dunbar, John of Dunbar, Sir 'Davy' of Dunbar, brothers.
Elizabeth died after 1438.
A contract for the marriage of Elizabeth Dunbar and an unknown person was signed on 28 August 1395. A dispensation for Prince David and Elizabeth Dunbar to marry (1395) states: ' Reg. Aven 280, 323v - To the bishops of St Andrews and Brechin. Mandate to dispense David, earl of Carrick, first born of Robert, king of Scotland, to marry the noblewoman Elizabeth, daughter of the nobleman George, earl of March, who although being related in the 3rd degree of consanguinity and in full knowledge of this fact had contracted marriage per verba de futuro, since if this marriage were not to come about grave scandal and dissension would arise.
On 28 August 1395 Pope Benedict XIII. (Antipope) ordered a dispensation to be granted to David, Earl of Carrick (afterwards Duke of Rothesay), first born of Robert, King of Scotland, and Elizabeth, daughter of George, Earl of March, who, knowing themselves to he in the third degree of consanguinity had contracted espousals per verba de futuro, the King's consent being first obtained (Regesta Avinionensia, 290, f. 3236). On 11 March 1396-97 a commission was issued by the same Pope to grant dispensation to the same persons, who had married without banns, copula subsecuta (Ibid, 303 f. 4896). This seems to show that the prince and Elizabeth Dunbar were married, and not only betrothed. The insult to the Earl of March and his family by the Prince's repudiation of Elizabeth was thus much greater than has hitherto been stated.
Elizabeth, betrothed in 1395 to David, Earl of Carrick, who, before 1396, married, and afterwards repudiated her about the year 1400 as stated. At a later date she held the lands of Mordington, in Berwickshire.
The Liber Pluscardensis records the betrothal in 1399 of "dux Rothsay David princeps, primogenitus regis Roberti tercii" and "domina Elizabeth filia domini Georgii de Dunbar comitis Marchiarum" but adding that the marriage did not take place[1622]. Betrothed (contract broken before Feb 1400) to DAVID Stewart Duke of Rothesay, son of ROBERT III King of Scotland & his wife Annabella Drummond (24 Oct 1378-Falkland Castle 26 Mar 1402, bur Lindores Abbey). See http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359672007.
On 23 November 1411, Robert Clerkson, master of the Hospital of St Leonard near Perth, renounced it and all his rights in favour of Dame Elizabeth Dunbar, that she may be governor of the hospital, which in time past had been governed by women.' It is said the hospital was suppressed by King James I, but it was not until a year after his death that, on 24 April 1438, Dame Elizabeth resigned all her right to the hospital into the hands of Henry Wardlaw, Bishop of St Andrews, in favour of the Prior and brethren of the Charterhouse of the Vale of Virtue beside Perth. She also delivered up to them all charters and evidents, the prior and convent receiving as brothers and sisters, to their prayers for ever, the bodies and souls, both quick and dead, of, among others, Sir George, Earl of March, Christian, his spouse, Elizabeth Dunbar, their daughter (the granter), Sir George of Dunbar, Earl of March, their son, Sir Columba of Dunbar, Bishop of Moray, Sir Gavin of Dunbar, Patrick of Dunbar, John of Dunbar, Sir 'Davy' of Dunbar, brothers.
Elizabeth died after 1438.
Elizabeth Dunbar
Elizabeth Dunbar was the daughter of Sir William Dunbar 2nd Bart of Hempriggs and Henrietta Rose.
She died unmarried. She had 2 sisters Alexandria and Williamina.
She died unmarried. She had 2 sisters Alexandria and Williamina.
Elizabeth Dunbar
(7 June 1778 - )
Elizabeth Dunbar was christened on 7 June 1778 in Knockando, Moray
. She was the daughter of Rev John Dunbar and Janet Grant.

Elizabeth Dunbar
(circa 1564 - 10 October 1577)
Elizabeth Dunbar was born circa 1564 in Moray
. She was the daughter of Alexander Dunbar and Katherine Reid.
Elizabeth died on 10 October 1577 in the Cathedral, Elgin, Moray
. She was murdered by the Innes family.

Elizabeth died on 10 October 1577 in the Cathedral, Elgin, Moray
