Alborou (Albreda?) de Lisle

(say 1326 - )
     Alborou (Albreda?) de Lisle was born say 1326. She became a nun at Chicksands with her sister. She was the daughter of Robert de Lisle and Margaret de Beauchamp.

Alice de Lisle

(say 1315 - )
     Alice de Lisle was born say 1315. She was the daughter of Robert de Lisle and Margaret de Beauchamp.
     Alice de Lisle married Robert Peverel in 1330. This marriage is very unlikely to be for the same Alice.
     Alice de Lisle married Thomas de Seymour before 1339. Shortly before her father's ddeath (in January 1342–3) he took religious orders, having previously in 1339 granted Pishobury with other manors to his daughters Alice, wife of Sir Thomas Seymour, and Elizabeth Peverel for life, with remainder to his son John, who quitclaimed to his sisters. (fn. 82) This grant was apparently made by Robert for the performance of certain alms. (fn. 83) In 1343, however, John obtained from Alice and Elizabeth a release of the manor for thirty years, with the exception of certain premises—viz. the house on the left-hand side within the second gate, which contained two chambers for habitation, and the park of Gedelesho, which belonged to the manor, John retaining 12 acres of underwood yearly with profits from the land called Vodeleye and housbote and heybote for the manor, the keeper of Gedelesho Wood to be chosen with the assent of both parties and to have his robe from Alice and his livery of corn, &c., from John. (fn. 84) John Lord Lisle died seised of the lease in 1356. (fn. 85) After his death Alice Seymour surrendered Pishobury to his son Robert, who was to assist her in the foundation of charities begun by Sir John Lisle for the soul of his father. (fn. 86) In 1368 Robert Lisle granted his knights' fees and the courts held for his tenants at Walbrook and Farningho, co. Essex, to the king. (fn. 87) This transaction has led to the inference that he had no legitimate issue, but one pedigree gives him a son William, (fn. 88) and a William Lisle granted Pishobury in March 1392–3 to Richard first Lord Scrope of Bolton, (fn. 89) this transaction being followed in 1394 by a quitclaim from Sir Robert Lisle. (fn. 90) From: 'Parishes: Sawbridgeworth', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 3 (1912), pp. 332-347. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43625&strquery=insula rougemont Date accessed: 12 March 2012..
     Alice de Seynt Maure, received a manor from her brother John de Lisle. Alice de Lisle was mentioned at the Inquisition Post Mortem held on 23 March 1341/42 on the death of Robert de Lisle. Robert del Isle. Writ to the escheator of co. Cambs, etc. to inquire what lands etc. the said Robert held on the day when he was professed in an order of religion etc 23 March 16 Edw III.
Cambs: Inq. taken at Cottenham, 23 April - He held no lands. etc in the county on the day he was professed.
John his son aged 24 & more, is his next heir.
Similar writ to the escheator whi is also to inquire whether the said Robert alienated any lands etc to anyone 3 May 16 Edw III.
Cambs: Inq. taken at Holytone 15 May. Manors of Ramptone, Cotenham & Westwyk & advowdson of church of Wynepol, but alienated them to Alice, daughter of Robert de Insula, Elizabeth Peverell, Richard de Baiocis, Wm de Ruston, Edmunde de Benhale & Henry Ewenny, to hold to them, during their lives, of the said Robert & his heirs, doing the serviced thereto pertaining to the chief lords of that fee, with remainder to John, his son, as appears in a fine levied inthe king's court. The said manor of Rampton is held of John Burdeleys, as of the manor of Maddyngle, by knight's service. The manor of Cotenham is held of the bishop of Ely, by knight's service. The manor of Westwyck and the advowson fo the church of Wynepol, with a certain manor in the town of Great Wilburgham, which the said Robert, before he assumed the habit of religion, alienated to the said John, his son and heir, are held of the earl of Brittany, by service of a sore sparrow-hawk, or half a mark yearly. The said Robert, who held the manor of Coveneye, alienated it long before he assumed the habit of religion, to the aforesaid Alice, etc. to hold to them, for their lives, of the said Robert and his hiers, with remainder to John his son, as appears by fine levied in the king's court. The said manor of Coveneye is held of the prior and convent of Ely, as in socage and by service of 5s yearly. He held no lands etc. in the county on the day he assumed the habit of religion.
     Similar writ to the escheator in co. Oxford, etc. 3 May.
Oxford: Inq. taken at Oxford, 18 May. Hayford Warin. The said Robert, long before he assumed the habit of religion, alienated the manor oto the said Alice etc for their lives, by fine levied in the king's court, at Westminster, 3 weeks from the day of St Michael, 13 Edw III; and it is held of the earl of Cornwall by service of a fifth part of a knight's fee. He held no lands etc. in the bailiwick on the day he was professed. John his son, aged 24 years is his next heir.
Similar writ to the escheator in co. Essex etc. 3 May.
Essex. Inq. taken at Herllawe 17 May. He held no lands etc. in fee in the county on the day he assumed the habit of religion or before.
Hertford. Inq. taken at Ware, 15 May 16 Edw III:
Pysshobury. He held the manor, but long before he assumed the habit of religion he alienated the same to Alice & Elizabeth, daughters of Robert de Isle, Richard de Bayeuse, William de Russhton, Edmund de Benhale and Henry Ewenay, to hold to them for their lives, of the chief lords of that fee, by the accustomed services, with remainder to John his son, to hold for life as above, with further successive remainders to Robert, son of the said John, and the heirs of his body, to hold as above, and to John brother of the said Robert, son of John, and the heirs of his body, to hold as above. The manor is held of Geoffrey de Say, Knight, by service of three knights' fees and three-quarters.
He held no lands etc. in the country of the day he assumd the habit of religion.
John his son, aged 23 years and more, is his next heir
. Alice de Lisle was the subject of an Inquisition Post Mortem held in Northampton, Northamptonshire, on 5 May 1349. This is unlikely to be the same person as Alice, late the wife of Robert Peverel. Writ 5 May 23 Edward III.
Northampton. Inq. taken at Northampton, 26 June, 23 Edw III.
Assheby David. The manor (extent given) including 120 acres arable worth 40 sh and no more for want of servants because of the common pestilence and whereas there used to be 24 bondsmen now only 6 survive, held for her life of the heir of Larence de Hastyngges, late earl of Pembroke, a minor in the king's wardship, by knight's service.
All the lands ec. in Chaddiston by Assheby were pertaining to the said manor on the day the said Alice died, and came into the hands of John del Isle immediately after her death, by what right the jurors know not.
She died on Wednesday after the Close of Easter last. John Peverel, aged 19 years at Whitsuntide last, is her heir
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Alice de Lisle

(circa 1310? - after 1344)
     Alice de Lisle was born circa 1310?. She was the daughter of Warin de Lisle and Alice Tyes.
     Alice de Lisle married Sir John Grey before 20 October 1330.
     Alice died after 1344.

Alice de Lisle

     Alice de Lisle was the daughter of John de Lisle 2nd Baron and Maud or Matilda Grey.
     Pishobury: The manor called SAWBRIDGEWORTH down to the end of the 13th century, and after that PISHO or PISHOBURY originated in a grant of 74 librates of land at Sawbridgeworth, which Geoffrey de Mandeville the elder (ob. 1144) made to Warin and Henry Fitz Gerold, to hold by the service of one knight for each 20 librates. (fn. 71) Grants were made by Warin and Henry to Bury St. Edmunds and Reading Abbey (see Tednambury and Groves); the remainder of the land formed the manor of Pishobury. Henry, who survived his brother, left two sons, Warin and Henry. Margaret, daughter and heir of Warin, married Baldwin de Redvers, Earl of Devon, whom she survived, and secondly Falkes de Breauté, who forfeited in 1224. The manor was granted to Margaret during the king's pleasure. (fn. 72) In 1248 Margaret levied a fine with William de Say, by which it was agreed that William and his heirs were to have free warren throughout the vill of Sawbridgeworth including Margaret's demesnes, the warren to be kept by William's warrener, whilst Margaret and her heirs were to have free chase in her fee with dogs, birds or nets, and free fishery in the river where it adjoined her lands. (fn. 73) Baldwin de Redvers, Earl of Devon, son and heir of Margaret, died in February 1244–5 (fn. 74) and his son Baldwin in 1262, (fn. 75) leaving no issue. His widow Margaret had seisin of the manor. (fn. 76) She married Roger Aguilon, (fn. 77) and held the manor until her death in 1292. (fn. 78) It then passed to Isabella Countess of Albemarle, sister of Baldwin, (fn. 79) who died in 1293, having survived her only daughter Avelina, wife of Edmund Earl of Lancaster. Her cousin Hugh de Courtenay, great-grandson of Mary daughter of William de Redvers (father of the first-mentioned Baldwin), was her heir, but Warin Lisle (de Insula) had a grant of the issues of the manor in 1294 to hold until Hugh came of age, (fn. 80) and in 1310 his son Robert successfully claimed the manor against Hugh de Courtenay by descent from Henry the brother of Warin above mentioned (son of Henry Fitz Gerold), whose daughter Alice married Robert Lisle of Rougemont and was father of Robert, father of Warin, father of the plaintiff. (fn. 81)

Lisle. Gules a leopard argent crowned or.
Robert Lisle was summoned to Parliament as Lord Lisle from 1311. Shortly before his death (in January 1342–3) he took religious orders, having previously in 1339 granted Pishobury with other manors to his daughters Alice, wife of Sir Thomas Seymour, and Elizabeth Peverel for life, with remainder to his son John, who quitclaimed to his sisters. (fn. 82) This grant was apparently made by Robert for the performance of certain alms. (fn. 83) In 1343, however, John obtained from Alice and Elizabeth a release of the manor for thirty years, with the exception of certain premises—viz. the house on the left-hand side within the second gate, which contained two chambers for habitation, and the park of Gedelesho, which belonged to the manor, John retaining 12 acres of underwood yearly with profits from the land called Vodeleye and housbote and heybote for the manor, the keeper of Gedelesho Wood to be chosen with the assent of both parties and to have his robe from Alice and his livery of corn, &c., from John. (fn. 84) John Lord Lisle died seised of the lease in 1356. (fn. 85) After his death Alice Seymour surrendered Pishobury to his son Robert, who was to assist her in the foundation of charities begun by Sir John Lisle for the soul of his father. (fn. 86) In 1368 Robert Lisle granted his knights' fees and the courts held for his tenants at Walbrook and Farningho, co. Essex, to the king. (fn. 87) This transaction has led to the inference that he had no legitimate issue, but one pedigree gives him a son William, (fn. 88) and a William Lisle granted Pishobury in March 1392–3 to Richard first Lord Scrope of Bolton, (fn. 89) this transaction being followed in 1394 by a quitclaim from Sir Robert Lisle. (fn. 90) From: 'Parishes: Sawbridgeworth', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 3 (1912), pp. 332-347. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43625&strquery=insula rougemont Date accessed: 12 March 2012..
     From: "Douglas Richardson"
To:
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002
Subject: Re: John Lisle - Maud de Grey
I believe that John de Lisle, 2nd Lord Lisle of Rougemont, was the father of the newly discovered Alice de Lisle, wife of Robert de Holand, the younger. However, beyond Alice's father being named John de Lisle, I haven't found any evidence yet which specifically links the Holand family or their heirs, the Lovel family, to the Lords Lisle of Rougemont.
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> mthiesse@swbell.net ("malinda") wrote in message
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> > My records show John de Insula, 2nd Lord Lisle de Rougemont,
My reference is a chart titled Barony of Aldeburgh. Their son Robert, Lord Lisle de Rougemont (Lord of Harwood), 3rd Baron, (summoned to Parliament as Lord Lisle of Rougemont, 20 Nov. 1360) ob. s.p. 1399. His sister Elizabeth de Insula was his heir, who m. 1365 William de Aldeburgh (Lord of Harwood Castle, co. Durham, j.ux.), summoned to Parliament as Baron Aldeburgh, 8 Jan. 137; Gent. of Privy Chamber to David II, KIng of Scots; bur. at Aldburgh, in Richmondshire, 1388.

Audere (Audrey) de Lisle

(say 1325 - before 1343)
     Audere (Audrey) de Lisle was born say 1325. She became a nun at Chicksands a Gilbertine Order built on land donated by the de sle family adjacent to their Bedfordshire Manor Campton, with her sister Alborou. He was the son of Robert de Lisle and Margaret de Beauchamp.
     Audere died before 1343.

Sir Baldwin de Lisle

(before 1296 - )
     Baldwin died in England. He held lands in Chatteris by gift of his brother Warine in 1306.. He was born before 1296 in England. He was the son of Warin de Lisle and Alice de Montfort.

Cassandra De Lisle

(circa 1190 - )
     Cassandra De Lisle was born circa 1190. She was the daughter of Robert de Lisle.
     Cassandra De Lisle married Richard de Argentein in 1203/4. She brought Newmarket & Exning as a marriage portion.

Elizabeth de Lisle

(say 1322 - after 1343/44)
     Elizabeth de Lisle was born say 1322. She was the daughter of Robert de Lisle and Margaret de Beauchamp.
     Elizabeth de Lisle married Edmund Peverel before 1330.
     In 1334 Edmund's widow, Elizabeth de Lisle, was cited by the Pope to appear as a witness with her parents, Robert and Margaret de Lisle, and her grandmother, Alice de Beauchamp, regarding the matter of the consanguinity which existed between their kinsman, John de Bohun, Earl of Hereford and Essex, and his wife, Margaret Basset. Elizabeth was living 28 Jan. 1348. Elizabeth de Lisle was mentioned at the Inquisition Post Mortem held on 23 March 1341/42 on the death of Robert de Lisle. Robert del Isle. Writ to the escheator of co. Cambs, etc. to inquire what lands etc. the said Robert held on the day when he was professed in an order of religion etc 23 March 16 Edw III.
Cambs: Inq. taken at Cottenham, 23 April - He held no lands. etc in the county on the day he was professed.
John his son aged 24 & more, is his next heir.
Similar writ to the escheator whi is also to inquire whether the said Robert alienated any lands etc to anyone 3 May 16 Edw III.
Cambs: Inq. taken at Holytone 15 May. Manors of Ramptone, Cotenham & Westwyk & advowdson of church of Wynepol, but alienated them to Alice, daughter of Robert de Insula, Elizabeth Peverell, Richard de Baiocis, Wm de Ruston, Edmunde de Benhale & Henry Ewenny, to hold to them, during their lives, of the said Robert & his heirs, doing the serviced thereto pertaining to the chief lords of that fee, with remainder to John, his son, as appears in a fine levied inthe king's court. The said manor of Rampton is held of John Burdeleys, as of the manor of Maddyngle, by knight's service. The manor of Cotenham is held of the bishop of Ely, by knight's service. The manor of Westwyck and the advowson fo the church of Wynepol, with a certain manor in the town of Great Wilburgham, which the said Robert, before he assumed the habit of religion, alienated to the said John, his son and heir, are held of the earl of Brittany, by service of a sore sparrow-hawk, or half a mark yearly. The said Robert, who held the manor of Coveneye, alienated it long before he assumed the habit of religion, to the aforesaid Alice, etc. to hold to them, for their lives, of the said Robert and his hiers, with remainder to John his son, as appears by fine levied in the king's court. The said manor of Coveneye is held of the prior and convent of Ely, as in socage and by service of 5s yearly. He held no lands etc. in the county on the day he assumed the habit of religion.
     Similar writ to the escheator in co. Oxford, etc. 3 May.
Oxford: Inq. taken at Oxford, 18 May. Hayford Warin. The said Robert, long before he assumed the habit of religion, alienated the manor oto the said Alice etc for their lives, by fine levied in the king's court, at Westminster, 3 weeks from the day of St Michael, 13 Edw III; and it is held of the earl of Cornwall by service of a fifth part of a knight's fee. He held no lands etc. in the bailiwick on the day he was professed. John his son, aged 24 years is his next heir.
Similar writ to the escheator in co. Essex etc. 3 May.
Essex. Inq. taken at Herllawe 17 May. He held no lands etc. in fee in the county on the day he assumed the habit of religion or before.
Hertford. Inq. taken at Ware, 15 May 16 Edw III:
Pysshobury. He held the manor, but long before he assumed the habit of religion he alienated the same to Alice & Elizabeth, daughters of Robert de Isle, Richard de Bayeuse, William de Russhton, Edmund de Benhale and Henry Ewenay, to hold to them for their lives, of the chief lords of that fee, by the accustomed services, with remainder to John his son, to hold for life as above, with further successive remainders to Robert, son of the said John, and the heirs of his body, to hold as above, and to John brother of the said Robert, son of John, and the heirs of his body, to hold as above. The manor is held of Geoffrey de Say, Knight, by service of three knights' fees and three-quarters.
He held no lands etc. in the country of the day he assumd the habit of religion.
John his son, aged 23 years and more, is his next heir
.
     Elizabeth died after 1343/44.

Children of Elizabeth de Lisle and Edmund Peverel

Gerard de Lisle

(circa 1304 - circa 9 June 1360)
     Gerard de Lisle was born circa 1304 in England. He was aged 23 at his father's inquisition 10 Feb 1327, aged 40 at his mothers.. He was the son of Warin de Lisle and Alice Tyes.
     Gerard de Lisle married Eleanor Strange. Gerard de Lisle was the heir of Gerard de Lisle at the Inquisition Post Mortem held between February 1326 and 1327. Warin de Insula - writ 10 Feb I Edw III re lands in Norfolk (Mundeford), Northamptonshire (Stowe & Kislingbury), Berkshire (Kington, Fauelore, Budene & Pesmere). Mentions his wife Alice who was jointly seised of the manors and townships, and his heir, son Gerard aged 22/23, the Norfolk lands were held of Sir Robert de Insula by service of a sore sparrow-hawk yearly. He was the heir of Warin de Lisle at the Inquisition Post Mortem held on 10 February 1327/28. He died seized of the manors of Bouden, Kingston and Fanflore in Berkshire, Mundiford in Norfolk, and Kistingbury in Northamptonshire, leaving Gerard, his son aged 23, and Alice his wife, sister & heir of Henry, Baron Teyes surviving. Edw III, v.7. Gerard was summoned as Baron 15 Dec 1347 having become eminent in the Scotch & French wars of Edward III on 15 December 1347.
     Gerard de Lisle married Elizabeth Unknown (St John) before 1355. They are mentioned in an Inq. PM of 1355 [29 Edw III] of Edmund de Sancto Johanne re the manor of Walbertone, Sussex, the manor held by Gerard de Insula and Elizabeth his wife, in dower of the said Elizabeth, by gift of Edmund de Sancto Johanne, sometime her husband; and the manor of Abboteston & Bromleigh, and Basyng in Southampton, ditto, the gift of Edmund de Sancto Johanne her former husband. Edmund died a minor.
     ...Lisle (de Insula), lord of Kingston [Lisle] of the receipt from Elizabeth late the wife of Roger de Carminow, knight, of 10 marks, part of 100 marks due for the wardship and marriage of Thomas son and heir ... [full transcript temp not available].
     Gerard died circa 9 June 1360.
     Gerard de Lisle was the subject of an Inquisition Post Mortem held on 10 June 1360. Of the several inquisitions taken it is stated that he died on 9, 15, 16 & 17 June. Warin, his son and heir is variously described as 30, 24, 26 and 27. Inq P M June & July 1360 (34 Edw III) Had lands with his wife in Walberton, Sussex, Fretewell Oxf; Bromlegh & Abbotdeston, Southampton, Chilton Foliiot, Cherlton by Hungerford & Fersshedon by Esthrop in Wiltshire; with Henry their son held of Countess of Aumarle.
He held the manor of Kyngeston de Lisle of Robert de Lisle of Rougemount, kt, by service of one knight's fee and a pair of gilt spurs or 6d yearly. He also held Fauelore, Buden, Uplambourne & Hardewell in Berkshire. In Northampton he held Stowe and Kyselyngbury, and Pesemere. In Cornwall he held Alwerton & Tuernayl and in York he held the manor of Brakerne of Sir Thomas de Ros of Haelak by knight's services.

Child of Gerard de Lisle and Eleanor Strange

Children of Gerard de Lisle and Elizabeth Unknown (St John)

Gerard de Lisle

(circa 1240 - before November 1288)
     Gerard de Lisle was born circa 1240. He was described as their younger son. The Berkely Castle Muniments state: The Lisles of Kingston Lisle were established by the grant by Alice wife of Robert de Lisle (d. c. 1262) to their younger son Gerard of two manors, Kingston, in the parish of Sparsholt (Berks.), then called Kingston Gerold and now Kingston Lisle, and Mundford (Norf.) With Kingston were associated a number of other holdings nearby which were occasionally referred to as the manors of Fawler and Baulking, and which incorporated holdings in Uffington. The manor of Nuneham (Oxon.) also seems to have been part of the FitzGerold inheritance. He was the son of Robert de Lisle and Alice FitzGerald.
     In 1260 his parents conveyed to Gerard de Lisle, their younger son (progenitor of the Kingston Lisle line), his mother's Mundford estate and two years later, Alice confirmed the grant and released Gerard from payment of the rent of £10 which had been due to her late husband.
     The Berkeley Castle Muniments state: The parish of Sparsholt was divided between the hundreds of Wantage and Shrivenham, the villages of Sparsholt and Westcot lying in the former and Kingston Lisle and Fawler in the latter. Sparsholt, with part of Westcot and another vill, Eastmanton, were held by the Achard family (and later by the de la Mares), but the portion of the parish in Wantage hundred was dominated by the Lisles. Ten hides in the parish, later Kingston Lisle, was royal demesne, for which the sheriff owed a farm of £32, until 1154 when it was granted by Henry II to Warin FitzGerold, a chamberlain of the Exchequer. On Warin's childless death in 1159 it passed to his brother Henry (d. 1174-5) and from him to his elder son and heir Warin, who granted it to his younger brother, another Henry (d. c. 1231). Warin's grant of Sparsholt and neighbouring Baulking to Henry (below, BCM/B/1/1/9 [SC 113]) was witnessed by Ralph and Henry Foliot, who were presumably Ralph of Chilton Foliat and his brother and eventual heir; Ralph is said to have died c. 1204, so when Warin was recorded as holding the 32 librates in Sparsholt in 1212 it was as mediate lord only. Henry FitzGerold's son and heir Warin died without issue 1257 x 1260, leaving the manor to pass to his sister Alice, wife of Robert de Lisle. The estate's history is reflected in its changing denomination, from Kingesparsholte in 1254, to Kingston Gerold, and later Kingston Lisle. Despite the later dominance of Kingston, Baulking appears to have been the more important vill in the 13th century. Henry FitzGerold was granted a market at Baulking in 1218, and his son a market and fair there in 1253, although in the following year, when he had a grant of free warren in Kingston, Fawler and Baulking, he also had a market in Kingston. [Farrer, iii. 170.]
Also in Sparsholt was another estate of 10 hides at Fawler which had been held in 1086 by Abingdon Abbey and was later subinfeudated by the abbey to the Columbers family of neighbouring Hardwell and Uffington. Robert de Columbers died in 1238 when his estates were mortgaged to the Jews; Hardwell passed to Gilbert de Columbers but was sold by his son and heir Henry to Samson Foliot for a payment of 200 marks to the Jews of Winchester. Warin FitzGerold acquired the estate in Fawler before 1242-3 when he was holding one fee there of the abbey. [Farrer, iii. 223]
Although the three vills of Kingston, Baulking and Fawler were usually associated as one manor under the Lisles, the different histories of the vills was reflected in the feudal structure, the cadet branch of the Lisles holding Kingston and Baulking of the Lisles of Rougemont while Fawler was held of the abbey.
The manor was granted to Gerard de Lisle by his mother Alice, with Mundford, in 1264-5, and Gerard's widow Alice acquired the wardship of the manor, also with Mundford, from Gerard's nephew, Warin de Lisle of Rougemont, in 1290: below, BCM/B/1/1/10 [GC 576]. It was forfeited after the rebellion and execution of Warin in 1322 and restored to his widow in 1326: below, BCM/B/1/1/12 [SC 491]. It was clearly the centre of the Lisle estate and the surviving accounts and valors show that in the 1380s the rents and farms of many other manors of the estate were paid there, including those of Hardwell, Fresden, Bockhampton, Upper Lambourn, Nethercott, Draycot Foliat, Noke and Fritwell.
     Gerard de Insula and Lady Alice de Insula, his mother. Sun. after St. Peter in chains, 49 Hen. III
Gerard has granted to Alice the manors of Kyngeston (Berks.), and Mundeford (Norf.); to hold for life, to hold as he held before of her gift, rent a sore sparrowhawk a year, with remainder to Gerard and his heirs.
Witnesses: Sir Thomas Bardulf, Robert de Tybetoft, Philip de Insula, Osbert de Kaylly, Richard de Coleshull, Osbert de Mundeford, Geoffrey le clerk de Mundeford, John de Copeshulle.
     Gerard de Insula and Alice de Insula. One week after St. Martin, 54 Hen. III. - Final concord concerning the manor of Kingston; Alice has acknowledged the right of Gerard in the manor, by her gift, to him and his issue; rent £28 to Alice while she lives and the service of a quarter of a fee, after her death no rent and the service of one fee, reversion to Alice and her right heirs if Gerard dies without issue.
At: Westminster.
     Gerard de Lisle married Alice de Armenters, daughter of Henry de Armenters, circa 1271.
     Gerard died before November 1288.

Child of Gerard de Lisle and Alice de Armenters

Henry de Lisle

(before 1360 - )
     Henry de Lisle was born before 1360 in England. He was the son of Gerard de Lisle and Elizabeth Unknown (St John).

Joanna de Lisle

(before 1296 - )
     Joanna de Lisle was born before 1296 in England. She was the daughter of Warin de Lisle and Alice de Montfort.

John de Lisle

(before 1339 - )
     John de Lisle was born before 1339. He was the son of John de Lisle 2nd Baron and Maud or Matilda Grey.
John, Robert and John was party to a deed dated 1340 in the manor, Kirkby Overblow; At Westminster, Quindene of Michaelmas, 14 Edward III (1340). Thomas de Insula, quer., Robert de Insula, def., of the manor of Kireby Orblower, except the advowson of the church thereof: To hold (subject to the life estate of William de Risshton) to Thomas and the heirs male of his body, paying yearly to Robert and his heirs one rose at the Nativity of St John the Baptist for all service to them, and doing all other services to the chief lords; remainder to Robert son the said Robert de Insula for life: remainders in succession to Robert and John, sons of the said John, and the heirs male of their bodies; reversion to Robert de Insula and his heirs. William [de Risshton] was present and consenting, and did fealty. He was mentioned at the Inquisition Post Mortem held on 23 March 1341/42 on the death of Robert de Lisle. Robert del Isle. Writ to the escheator of co. Cambs, etc. to inquire what lands etc. the said Robert held on the day when he was professed in an order of religion etc 23 March 16 Edw III.
Cambs: Inq. taken at Cottenham, 23 April - He held no lands. etc in the county on the day he was professed.
John his son aged 24 & more, is his next heir.
Similar writ to the escheator whi is also to inquire whether the said Robert alienated any lands etc to anyone 3 May 16 Edw III.
Cambs: Inq. taken at Holytone 15 May. Manors of Ramptone, Cotenham & Westwyk & advowdson of church of Wynepol, but alienated them to Alice, daughter of Robert de Insula, Elizabeth Peverell, Richard de Baiocis, Wm de Ruston, Edmunde de Benhale & Henry Ewenny, to hold to them, during their lives, of the said Robert & his heirs, doing the serviced thereto pertaining to the chief lords of that fee, with remainder to John, his son, as appears in a fine levied inthe king's court. The said manor of Rampton is held of John Burdeleys, as of the manor of Maddyngle, by knight's service. The manor of Cotenham is held of the bishop of Ely, by knight's service. The manor of Westwyck and the advowson fo the church of Wynepol, with a certain manor in the town of Great Wilburgham, which the said Robert, before he assumed the habit of religion, alienated to the said John, his son and heir, are held of the earl of Brittany, by service of a sore sparrow-hawk, or half a mark yearly. The said Robert, who held the manor of Coveneye, alienated it long before he assumed the habit of religion, to the aforesaid Alice, etc. to hold to them, for their lives, of the said Robert and his hiers, with remainder to John his son, as appears by fine levied in the king's court. The said manor of Coveneye is held of the prior and convent of Ely, as in socage and by service of 5s yearly. He held no lands etc. in the county on the day he assumed the habit of religion.
     Similar writ to the escheator in co. Oxford, etc. 3 May.
Oxford: Inq. taken at Oxford, 18 May. Hayford Warin. The said Robert, long before he assumed the habit of religion, alienated the manor oto the said Alice etc for their lives, by fine levied in the king's court, at Westminster, 3 weeks from the day of St Michael, 13 Edw III; and it is held of the earl of Cornwall by service of a fifth part of a knight's fee. He held no lands etc. in the bailiwick on the day he was professed. John his son, aged 24 years is his next heir.
Similar writ to the escheator in co. Essex etc. 3 May.
Essex. Inq. taken at Herllawe 17 May. He held no lands etc. in fee in the county on the day he assumed the habit of religion or before.
Hertford. Inq. taken at Ware, 15 May 16 Edw III:
Pysshobury. He held the manor, but long before he assumed the habit of religion he alienated the same to Alice & Elizabeth, daughters of Robert de Isle, Richard de Bayeuse, William de Russhton, Edmund de Benhale and Henry Ewenay, to hold to them for their lives, of the chief lords of that fee, by the accustomed services, with remainder to John his son, to hold for life as above, with further successive remainders to Robert, son of the said John, and the heirs of his body, to hold as above, and to John brother of the said Robert, son of John, and the heirs of his body, to hold as above. The manor is held of Geoffrey de Say, Knight, by service of three knights' fees and three-quarters.
He held no lands etc. in the country of the day he assumd the habit of religion.
John his son, aged 23 years and more, is his next heir
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     To the bishop of Durham. The like mandate in regard to John son of John de Insula, lord of Rougemont (de Rubeomonte), knight, of the diocese of Ely, aged eleven, touching a canonry of York with expectation of a prebend. From: 'Regesta 220: 1353', Calendar of Papal Registers Relating to Great Britain and Ireland, Volume 3: 1342-1362 (1897), pp. 478-481. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=96320&strquery=insula rougemont Date accessed: 12 March 2012..

John de Lisle

(before 1296 - )
     John de Lisle was born before 1296 in England. He was the son of Warin de Lisle and Alice de Montfort.

John de Lisle 2nd Baron

(before March 1318 - 14 October 1355)
     John de Lisle 2nd Baron bore arms: or, a fess between 2 chevronels sable. Arms in window of Harewood Church. See "Dictionary of Heraldry" p.129 for others using the same arms. Crest: A silver millstone picked sable, the millrind gold. He was born before March 1318 in Bedfordshire. He was aged 24 in 16 Edw III, but that would mean he was only 12 when he had his marriage dispensation. He was the son of Robert de Lisle and Margaret de Beauchamp.
     John de Lisle 2nd Baron married Maud or Matilda Grey, daughter of Sir Henry de Grey, before 16 December 1332. He married before 16 Dec 1332 when they had dispensation to remain in the marriage they had contracted while ignorant that they were within the 4th degree, Maud daughter of Sir Henry de Grey. He was granted property from Robert de Lisle in 1337 in Harewood. (10 Edw III) He was granted Harewood by his father to better serve the King: "his father Robert being disposed to give him 400 marks p.a. of land, to serve the King with 6 men-at-arms in his wars; the King to gratify the said Robert, and the better to support his son, granted that the said Robert and his heirs: and some years after, his brother Robert released to him and his heirs all his right in the said manor, and in the advowson of the church there. Being thus provided for, he attended the King in his first voyage to France, by way of Flanders 1340, and was in the Battle fought near Vironfosse. Two years after he went into Aquitaine in the King's service; and in the year ensuing he attended the King in Bretagne, while the King foraged the country and laid siege to Dinant. "For his good services done the King, he granted him a pension of 200 pounds p.a. for his life, to support his dignity of Bannaret, of which sum 120 pounds was assigned from the Priory of St Neots at Stoke, next Clare, and 80 pounds out of that of Eye, these were afterwards changed for other benefits". [M2.]
John, Robert and John was party to a deed dated 1340 in the manor, Kirkby Overblow; At Westminster, Quindene of Michaelmas, 14 Edward III (1340). Thomas de Insula, quer., Robert de Insula, def., of the manor of Kireby Orblower, except the advowson of the church thereof: To hold (subject to the life estate of William de Risshton) to Thomas and the heirs male of his body, paying yearly to Robert and his heirs one rose at the Nativity of St John the Baptist for all service to them, and doing all other services to the chief lords; remainder to Robert son the said Robert de Insula for life: remainders in succession to Robert and John, sons of the said John, and the heirs male of their bodies; reversion to Robert de Insula and his heirs. William [de Risshton] was present and consenting, and did fealty. John de Lisle 2nd Baron was the heir of Robert de Lisle at the Inquisition Post Mortem held on 23 March 1341/42. Robert del Isle. Writ to the escheator of co. Cambs, etc. to inquire what lands etc. the said Robert held on the day when he was professed in an order of religion etc 23 March 16 Edw III.
Cambs: Inq. taken at Cottenham, 23 April - He held no lands. etc in the county on the day he was professed.
John his son aged 24 & more, is his next heir.
Similar writ to the escheator whi is also to inquire whether the said Robert alienated any lands etc to anyone 3 May 16 Edw III.
Cambs: Inq. taken at Holytone 15 May. Manors of Ramptone, Cotenham & Westwyk & advowdson of church of Wynepol, but alienated them to Alice, daughter of Robert de Insula, Elizabeth Peverell, Richard de Baiocis, Wm de Ruston, Edmunde de Benhale & Henry Ewenny, to hold to them, during their lives, of the said Robert & his heirs, doing the serviced thereto pertaining to the chief lords of that fee, with remainder to John, his son, as appears in a fine levied inthe king's court. The said manor of Rampton is held of John Burdeleys, as of the manor of Maddyngle, by knight's service. The manor of Cotenham is held of the bishop of Ely, by knight's service. The manor of Westwyck and the advowson fo the church of Wynepol, with a certain manor in the town of Great Wilburgham, which the said Robert, before he assumed the habit of religion, alienated to the said John, his son and heir, are held of the earl of Brittany, by service of a sore sparrow-hawk, or half a mark yearly. The said Robert, who held the manor of Coveneye, alienated it long before he assumed the habit of religion, to the aforesaid Alice, etc. to hold to them, for their lives, of the said Robert and his hiers, with remainder to John his son, as appears by fine levied in the king's court. The said manor of Coveneye is held of the prior and convent of Ely, as in socage and by service of 5s yearly. He held no lands etc. in the county on the day he assumed the habit of religion.
     Similar writ to the escheator in co. Oxford, etc. 3 May.
Oxford: Inq. taken at Oxford, 18 May. Hayford Warin. The said Robert, long before he assumed the habit of religion, alienated the manor oto the said Alice etc for their lives, by fine levied in the king's court, at Westminster, 3 weeks from the day of St Michael, 13 Edw III; and it is held of the earl of Cornwall by service of a fifth part of a knight's fee. He held no lands etc. in the bailiwick on the day he was professed. John his son, aged 24 years is his next heir.
Similar writ to the escheator in co. Essex etc. 3 May.
Essex. Inq. taken at Herllawe 17 May. He held no lands etc. in fee in the county on the day he assumed the habit of religion or before.
Hertford. Inq. taken at Ware, 15 May 16 Edw III:
Pysshobury. He held the manor, but long before he assumed the habit of religion he alienated the same to Alice & Elizabeth, daughters of Robert de Isle, Richard de Bayeuse, William de Russhton, Edmund de Benhale and Henry Ewenay, to hold to them for their lives, of the chief lords of that fee, by the accustomed services, with remainder to John his son, to hold for life as above, with further successive remainders to Robert, son of the said John, and the heirs of his body, to hold as above, and to John brother of the said Robert, son of John, and the heirs of his body, to hold as above. The manor is held of Geoffrey de Say, Knight, by service of three knights' fees and three-quarters.
He held no lands etc. in the country of the day he assumd the habit of religion.
John his son, aged 23 years and more, is his next heir
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     He was a commander at the siege of Nantes about 1343. In 1345 took part in the expedition to Gascony.
     A soldier like his father, he distinguished himself at the Battle of Cressy and was created a Knight of the Garter at the institution of that Order.
In 1346 he was awarded a pension of 200li to enable him to maintain his rank of Banneret. See Cokayne pp 73-76 for account of career.
The first important land battle between the French and English in the 100 years war, took place at Crécy, in Ponthieu, on August 26, 1346. There, Edward defeated the army that Philippe VI had sent to block his retreat to the northeast. Edward then laid siege to the port of Calais during September, 1346. The city surrendered in October of the same year and he deported most of its French occupants, colonizing the town with Englishmen so he could have a base for further invasions of France. Again, running out of money, he made a new truce in September, 1347.
In 1355, Edward broke the truce by leading large scale, but unsuccessful raids, against the French from Calais. However, he was more successful in Scotland where, in 1356 he received a formal surrender of the Kingdom of Scotland.
     From 1350-54 (his elder brother having died s.p.) he was summoned to parliament as Baron de L'Isle of Rougemonte. From 1351 he was described as Lord of Harewood.
     In 1350 Sir John de Insula, kt presents to the Church of Harewood Dec 1350; patron of Church Dec 26 1350. 1353 Had advowson granted to Bolton Priory, they held it until the dissolution of the monasteries 1536/7.
     John de Insula of Rubeus Mons to grant land in Harewood to the prior and convent of Bolton, retaining the rest of the manor of Harewood, and land in Kirkby Overblow. York. John de Lisle 2nd Baron in the 1352 (25 Edw III) was made Sheriff of the Counties of Cambridge & Huntingdon, by the King and was granted the custody of the Castle of Cambridge for life in 1352.
     3 Non. Jan. Avignon.(f. 309d.) To Matilda, wife of John de Insula, lord of Rougemont (de Rubeomonte), knight, of the diocese of Ely. Indult to enter the monasteries of St. Clare, Aldgate, London, and of Denny, in the diocese of Ely, with two honest matrons.
18 Kal. Feb.Avignon. (f. 310d.)To the archbishop of York. Mandate, at the request of John de Insula, knight (as above), to appropriate to the monastery of Bolton in Craven, endowed by the predecessor of the said knight, the church of Horwode, in his diocese, given by the same knight, a vicar's portion being assigned; six priests being appointed by the prior of the monastery to celebrate masses for the souls of the said John, his predecessor, and other faithful
. From: 'Regesta 222: 1353', Calendar of Papal Registers Relating to Great Britain and Ireland, Volume 3: 1342-1362 (1897), pp. 485-496. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=96322&strquery=insula rougemont Date accessed: 12 March 2012..
     On 8 July 1355 he received pardon for the death of John de Goys, kt.
     John died on 14 October 1355 in Gascony, France. He died 14 Oct 1355 leaving by Matilda de Ferrars his wife, who survived him, two sons Sir Robert & John (named in a settlement of the manor of Kirkby Overblow made in 1340.
     Another sources states 30 Edw III [1356], of wounds caused by an arrow shot, but his inquisition was taken in 29 Edw III, so he must have been dead by then.
     John de Lisle 2nd Baron was the subject of an Inquisition Post Mortem held on 28 November 1355. John de Insula de Rougemont (Rubeo Monte). Writ, 28 November, 29 Edward III [1355].
Oxford - Inq. taken at Wodestok, Thursday 11 February 30 Edw III [1356]. He held no lands in the county. He died 14 Oct last. Robert his son aged 22 years and more, is his heir.
Writ 28 November 29 Edw III
Bedford. Inq taken at Shefford, Tuesday after the Epiphany, 29 Edw III.
Cambelton. The manor held jointly with Maud his wife, of the king in chief, service not known. He held no other lands etc in the bailiwick. He died on 9 Oct last. Robert de Insula of Rougemont, his son, aged 20 years and more is his heir.
Writ 28 Nov 28 Edw III.
Hertford. Inq. taken at Sabrichewroth, 29 Feb 30 Edw III.
Sabricheworth. The manor of Pisshobury, held for a term of 30 years by demise of Alice, daughter of Robert de Insula, Elizabeth Peverell, Richard de Baious, William de Ruston, Edmond de Benhale and Henry Ewenny, who held the said manor by fine levied in the king's court, by gift of Robert de Insula, father of the deceased, for their lives, at a rent of a rose yearly, with successive remainders to the deceased, Robert son of the deceased, & the heirs of his body, John brother of the said Robert and the heirs of his body, & ultimate reversion to Robert de Insula, the grantor and his heirs. The said manor is held of Sir Geoffrey de Say, as of his manor of Sabricheworth, by knight's service.
He died 14 Oct last. Robert his son, aged 20 years and more, is his heir.
Writ 28 November 29 Edw III
Cambridge. Inq. taken at Cambridge, Friday before St Valentine, 30 Edw III.
Gt Wilburgham. The manor (extent given) held jointly with Maud his wife who survives, and the heirs of their bodies, of the earl of Brittany by service of doing suit every month at the said earl's court of Badburgham, by gift of Robert de Insula, deceased.
Rampton, Cotenham, Westwyk & Coveneye. The manors held at farm for a term of 30 years by demise of Alice, daughter of Robert de Insula, and others etc. as Pisshobury, Herts. The manor of Rampton is held of the heirs of John de Burdeleys, as of his manor of Cotenham, by knight's service; the manor of Cotenham of the bishop of Ely by knight's service; the manor of Westwyk of the earl of Brittany by knight's service and by service a the said earl's tourn twice a year; and the manor of Coveneye of the prior of Ely by knight's service.
Date of death and heir as in preceding.
Writ 28 November, 29 Edw III
York. Inq. taken at Harewod, Saturday in the second week of Lent, 309 Edw III.
Harewod. The manor with its members (extent given) held of the king in chief as of the crown by service of a knight's free and by rendering 18s yearly by the hands of the sheriff to the fines of the wapentake of Skirayk. The said members are Carleton, Neuhale, Stokton, Helthwayt and Donkesewyk, and the extent includes 120 acres sour (morose) land, a small park with deer, a market every Saturday and a fair on St Swithin's day, Kirkeby Orblaweres. He was sometime seised of the manor, but two years and more before his death he gave it to Thomas de Walkefare, knight for life. The said Thomas survives. It is held of Henry de Percy by knight's service and by rendering 8 shillings yearly and doing suit at his court of Spofford every three weeks.
He held no other lands in the county.
Date of death as in the preceding. Robert de Insula, knight, his son, aged 20 years or more is his heir.
1355-6 Cal Inq P.M. #258: 28 Nov 29 Edw III aged 22 and at Lent 30 Edw III aged 20 at his father's inquisition. He was the subject of an Inquisition Post Mortem held on 22 May 1357. Robert, son & heir of John de Insula of Rougemont.
Writ to the escheator to take the proof of age of the said Robert, whose lands etc are in the king's custody. 22 May 31 Edw III.
Cambridge. Proof of age taken at Rampton, Tuesday before Holy Trinity, 31 Edw III.
Richard Roberd, aged 42 says that the said Robert is 21 years of age and more from St John before the Latein Gate last, and that he was born & bapt at Rampton. This he knows because in the year preceding the said heir's birth, Robert, his own brother was killed at Rampton and since then he has gone there yearly to keep his brother's anniversary.
John Gavelok, aged 46, and John Haldeyn aged 41 agree, and say that the birth of the said heir was entered in the missal of the church of Rampton, which book they have very often inspected.
Others confirm this. He was mentioned in a deed dated 1364 in Harewood, Yorkshire. Inquisition whether it would be to the detriment of the King or of others that Robert de l'Isle of Rougemont, kt should enfeoff William de Aldeburgh kt and Elizabeth his wife of 2 parts of the manor of Harewood, which he held in chief: and should concede that the third part of the said manor, which Maud late the wife of John de l'Isle of Rougemont, father of Robert, held in dowry, should remain after Maud's death to Wm & Elizabeth.
Robert de l'Isle paid £70 pre licencia feoffandi the two parts of the manor, 16 June 1634.
Cokayne notes that the remainder was to the heirs of William not Elizabeth.
]Robert was paid 1000 pounds for Harewood by his brother-in-law William Aldburgh in 1365. [Fine 38 Edw III].
     Robert de Insula of Rougemont, knight, to grant two-thirds of the manor of Harewood, except a messuage and land in Carlton, with the reversion of the other third, now held for life by Maud late the wife of John his father, to William de Aldeburgh, knight, Elizabeth his wife, and his heirs, retaining the said exceptions, with rent. York.
     In the 3rd week of Lent 41 Edw III (1367) at Harewood: Wm de Heselarton, Kt and others incl. Johi de Insula, Lord of the Manor of Harewood - 24 years ago he granted 20 shillings yearly rent out of the said manor, which he held of the King in chief, to Margaret late the wife of Thomas de Thwaytes, who survives, for her life, with the King's licence.

Children of John de Lisle 2nd Baron and Maud or Matilda Grey

Margaret de Lisle

(circa 1360 - before September 1392)
     Margaret de Lisle was born circa 1360. She was the daughter of Warin de Lisle 2nd Baron and Margaret Pipard.
     Margaret de Lisle married Lord Thomas Berkeley in November 1367 in Wingrave, Buckinghamshire.
     Margaret died before September 1392.

Child of Margaret de Lisle and Lord Thomas Berkeley

Margaret de Lisle (St Quinton)

     Margaret de Lisle (St Quinton) was the daughter of Warin de Lisle and Alice Tyes.

Margery de Lisle

(before 1296 - )
     Margery de Lisle married Philip Lucian.
     Margery de Lisle married Edmund Pinkeney as her second husband.. Margery de Lisle was born before 1296. She was the daughter of Warin de Lisle and Alice de Montfort.

Mary de Lisle

(before 1296 - )
     Mary de Lisle was born before 1296 in England. She was the daughter of Warin de Lisle and Alice de Montfort.

Richard de Lisle

(circa 1354 - )
     Richard de Lisle was born circa 1354 in England. He was the son of Gerard de Lisle and Elizabeth Unknown (St John).

Robert de Lisle

(20 January 1288/89 - 4 January 1343/44)
Robert De Lisle
     Robert de Lisle was born on 20 January 1288/89 in Camelton, Bedfordshire. He was born on the feast of SS Fabian & Sebastian [1291] aged 6 on next feast SS Fabian etc. [Confusion as 2 separate Inq. give conflicting dates 1288/9 & 1290/91].
21 March 1809/10 Writ giving proof of age at Bedford, 3 Edw II #229: Born at Camelton on Feast of SS Fabian & Sebastian 16 Edw I, and baptised at All Saints there on the morrow (therefore 1288/9), it also mentions his mother Alice, Rytheric de J ..., Joceline, & Andrew de Tong who had the wardship of the lands etc. of the said Robert's inheritance did not come nor oppose anything re his proof of age. He was christened on 21 January 1288/89 in All Saints, Camelton. He was the son of Warin de Lisle and Alice de Montfort. Robert de Lisle was the heir of Robert de Lisle at the Inquisition Post Mortem held on 7 December 1296. Writ 7 Dec 25 1296 Edward I: Suffolk: Inq. made at Semere on Wednesday after SS Fabian & Sebastian, Suffolk: Noddinge: The manor (extent given) held of the Bishop of Ely by service of 2 knights frees; and 4d ought to be paid yearly too the hundred of Cosford, and 3d to the parson of Bildeston. He demised the manor two years ago to Hervey de Stanton for life.
Inq. made at Fynebergh, 4 Jan 25 Edw I, 1296/7. The manor (extent given) wherof the said Warin de Insula and Alice his wife, who still survives, were enfeoffed jointly by one Nicholas de Charterey to them and the heirs of the said Warin and of the chief lords, viz. of the heirs of the Sir Robert de Mucegros, by service of a knights fee; and the said Alice remained in seisin with her husband until his death, and afterwards until the manor was taken into the King's hand. Robert his son, aged 6 years on the feast of Ss Fabian & Sebastian next, is his next heir.
Cambridge: Inq made at Cambridge on the day of St Thomas the Apostle, 25 Edw I. Rampstone. The manor (extent given) including rents at Wynepol pertaining thereto, the advowson of the church at Wynepole, and a fisher, held jointly as above, by the enfeoffment of the said Nicholas, of Geoffrey de Burdeleys by service of 1 3/4 knight's fee.
Cotenham. The manor held of the bishop of Ely by service of a moiety of a knight's fee.
Coveney with Maneye. The manor held in socage of the prior of Ely by service of 5sh. Heir as above.
Bedford: Inq. made at Sheford on Saturday after St Thomas the Apostle, 25 Edw I.
Kamelton. The manor (extent given), including 15 acres fo wood devastated in the time of the said Warin, held of the king in chief, as an escheat fo the lands etc late of the countess of Albemarle, by service of 1/2 knight's fee; and Nicholasd de Meperdeshale ought to received 2d yearly for 4 acres of meadow, and Nicholas Tuppeest (?) 2d. Heir as above, aged 6 years and more.
Writ (ad melius inquirendum) because by the previous inquisition it does not appear whether the manor of Kamelton was held of the dower of the countess of the lands late of William de Fortibus, her husband, or of the lands of her own inheritance, 25 June 25 Edw I.
Bedford: Inq. made at Sefford on Friday after Ss Peter & Paul, 25 Edw I.
Camelton. The said Warin held the manor of the escheat of the lands which were of the said countess, which she held of her own inheritance, by service of 1/2 knight's fee; and the countess held of the earl of Gloucester by the said service, as is believed, of 1/2 knight's fee
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     In 1307, writ of Richard son & heir of Adam de Stubhouse to take lands of his father who held by Knights service of the heir of Warin de Insula, now in the King's wardship 24 May 1 Edw II.
     He was found heir to Isabel, Countess of Albemarle in 1309, and Harewood and Kirkby Overblow delivered to him 1310.
The castle and manor of Rougemont in Harewood, came to the first Lord as part of his share of the ineritance of Isabel, Countess of Aumale, who had held as heiress of FitzGerald, de Curcy and Romelli
In July 1310 he obtained possession of the manors Heyford Warin and Newenham Oxon, Pysobury Herts, Harewood & Kirkby Overblow Yorks. Robert was summoned to parliament as Baron 19 Dec 1311 to 25 Feb 1342. He was the heir of Robert de Lisle at the Inquisition Post Mortem held on 13 March 1312. Isabel de Fortibus, sometime Countess of Albemarle. Writ to the escheator. Whereas before the justices of oyer and terminer it was agreed that, of the lands etc. that were of the said Isabel, the manor of Hayford Warin, co. Oxford, excepting 2 1/2 virgates land, and the manors of Passebury, co. Hertford, and Harwode & Kirkeby, co. York, excepting a messuage and 1 carucate land in Lofthous in Harewode, ought to descend to Robert de Insula, as her next heir of the inheritance of Margery, the wife of Baldwin de Vernoun, her grandmother; and that the manor of Newenham, co. Oxford, 2 1/2 virgates land in Hayford Warin, and a messuage and 1 carucate land in Lofthous, ought to descend to Hugh de Curtenay, as her next heir of the inheritance of the said Baldwin her grandfather; he is to enquire whether the advowson fo the church of Briggeham, co. Cumberland, which was of the said Isabel, pertains to the said Hugh or to the said Robert, 13 March, 5 Edw II.
Cumberland. Inq. Saturday 8 April, 5 Edw II.
Brigham. The advowson of the church is not of the inheritance of the said Baldwin nor of that of the said Margery, but one Thomas de Hothwayt who married Joan daughter of one of the heirs of John de Brigham, sometime lord of the manor and advowson of Brigha, and who, after the said Joan's death, held a moiety of the same by the courtesy of England, by fine levied before the justices of King Henry III, quitclaimed the said advowson to the said countess and heirs for ever; by reason whereof she was seised of the advowson at alternate turns, and Hugh de Curtenay who is her nearest kinsman on the side of her said grandfather, and not Robert de Insula, is her next heir of this advowson , because she thus acquired it, and by reason of the dignity of male blood
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     Robert de Lisle married Margaret de Beauchamp, daughter of Walter de Beauchamp Lord of Powke and Alice de Tosny, before 1315. A published abstract of a Cambridgeshire fine indicates that the marriage of Sir Robert de Lisle and Margaret de Beauchamp took place before 1315/16, as indicated below :
# 138c.Date: 9 Edward II [1315-1316]. Robert de Insula and Margaret his wife v. William de Risheton in Cotenham and Westwyk.
     Robertus de Ide (i.e. de Lisle) was Lord of Harwode in the wapentagium de Skyrack.
     John de Beaufou petitioned the King and council. John de Beaufou states that as the king was given to understand that Robert Peverel and Walter de Langton, formerly Bishop of Coventry and Lichfield, held of him in chief as of his crown, the king seized the body of Edmund, son and heir of Robert, and kinsman and heir of Walter, being under age, into his hand, together with his lands and tenements, and granted the keeping of the lands and the marriage of the heir to Robert del Idle (L'Isle). By virtue of this commission, Robert del Idle has seized Walter de Langton's lands in Ashley, although they are held not of the king but of John de Beaufou - as is proved by inquest returned in Chancery. John asks that the grant be repealed with regard to these tenements and the marriage of the heir, and that justice be done to him, according to the form of the inquests.
     In 1324 he held lands Berks, Cambs, Herts, Suffolk, Yorks & Beds also but he did not reside there.      
Robert de Lisle The Lay subsidy rolls in the time of Edward III (one probably in the first year of his reign lists at Harwood - Roberto de Insula at head of 5-6 others in 1326 in Harewood.
     Petitioners: Robert del Isdle (Lisle) and the men and tenants of Wharfedale.
Addressees: King and council.
Robert del Isdle and the men and tenants of Wharfedale state that they petitioned the King in the last parliament at Westminster by a petition, the transcript of which is sewn to this petition, stating that although King John, lord of the manor and forest of Knaresborough, had brought Wharfedale into that forest, when it was not of the fee or lordship of Knaresborough and had never been within forest, he was later better advised and removed it from the forest, granting the men and tenants of Wharfedale a charter to this effect, a transcript of which is sewn to this petition. But William de Ireby, Steward of Richard, Earl of Cornwall, wrongly charged the people of Wharfedale with puture of the forest and other charges and customs, and the ministers of the present King have continued to do this. This petition was answered that the charter should be examined and allowed, and that they should be quit of these charges, and writs were issued to the King's ministers to cease their demands, and other writs to the ministers of Queen Isabella, in whose hands the manor and forest are; but they continue to charge and harass the petitioners as before. They ask for a judgment that the first judgment be allowed.
Nature of endorsement: Because this thing was previously assented to and adjudged in full parliament, which is a very high judgment and made in the highest court in the land, execution is to be made of the first judgment; and the Steward and other necessary people are to be ordered to cease etc., and to allow the tenants to make their profits according to the first judgment, and not to do anything to the harm or contrary to the judgment, on pain of the appropriate penalty for those who contravene such a high judgment. And if they do not obey, a strict process is to be followed against those who are disobedient
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     In 1332 he donated to Arthington Nunnery for the good of the soul of Margaret his wife.
     Robert de Lisle was mentioned in 1334.
     In 1337 he had granted the manor of Harewood to John his younger son to enable him the better to serve the King in his wars. See Speights "Kirkby Overblow and district p.29 for the King's writs to deliver seisin to the claimants. He granted property to John de Lisle 2nd Baron in 1337 in Harewood. (10 Edw III) He was granted Harewood by his father to better serve the King: "his father Robert being disposed to give him 400 marks p.a. of land, to serve the King with 6 men-at-arms in his wars; the King to gratify the said Robert, and the better to support his son, granted that the said Robert and his heirs: and some years after, his brother Robert released to him and his heirs all his right in the said manor, and in the advowson of the church there. Being thus provided for, he attended the King in his first voyage to France, by way of Flanders 1340, and was in the Battle fought near Vironfosse. Two years after he went into Aquitaine in the King's service; and in the year ensuing he attended the King in Bretagne, while the King foraged the country and laid siege to Dinant. "For his good services done the King, he granted him a pension of 200 pounds p.a. for his life, to support his dignity of Bannaret, of which sum 120 pounds was assigned from the Priory of St Neots at Stoke, next Clare, and 80 pounds out of that of Eye, these were afterwards changed for other benefits".
     Edmund Peverel or Peverele: Lincolnshire (includes petition by Robert de Lyle regarding the wardship of Edmund's heir John, and two letters from the king to the chancellor touching this matter), 12 Edward III.
     Robert de Lyle petitioned the King.
Other people mentioned: [Henry of Lancaster], Earl of Lancaster; John Peverel, son and heir of Edmund Peverel; Edmund Peverel; John de Stonore (Stonor). Lyle requests the king's aid in the case between him and the earl of Lancaster, the earl challenging his right to the wardship and marriage of John Peverel, though he has no right in the same.
Endorsement: This letter came 24 day of January, 12 [Edward III]..
     Lisle. Gules a leopard argent crowned or. Robert Lisle was summoned to Parliament as Lord Lisle from 1311. Shortly before his death (in January 1342–3) he took religious orders, having previously in 1339 granted Pishobury with other manors to his daughters Alice, wife of Sir Thomas Seymour, and Elizabeth Peverel for life, with remainder to his son John, who quitclaimed to his sisters. (fn. 82) This grant was apparently made by Robert for the performance of certain alms. (fn. 83) In 1343, however, John obtained from Alice and Elizabeth a release of the manor for thirty years, with the exception of certain premises—viz. the house on the left-hand side within the second gate, which contained two chambers for habitation, and the park of Gedelesho, which belonged to the manor, John retaining 12 acres of underwood yearly with profits from the land called Vodeleye and housbote and heybote for the manor, the keeper of Gedelesho Wood to be chosen with the assent of both parties and to have his robe from Alice and his livery of corn, &c., from John. (fn. 84) John Lord Lisle died seised of the lease in 1356. (fn. 85) After his death Alice Seymour surrendered Pishobury to his son Robert, who was to assist her in the foundation of charities begun by Sir John Lisle for the soul of his father. (fn. 86) In 1368 Robert Lisle granted his knights' fees and the courts held for his tenants at Walbrook and Farningho, co. Essex, to the king. (fn. 87) This transaction has led to the inference that he had no legitimate issue, but one pedigree gives him a son William, (fn. 88) and a William Lisle granted Pishobury in March 1392–3 to Richard first Lord Scrope of Bolton, (fn. 89) this transaction being followed in 1394 by a quitclaim from Sir Robert Lisle. (fn. 90) From: 'Parishes: Sawbridgeworth', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 3 (1912), pp. 332-347. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43625&strquery=insula rougemont Date accessed: 12 March 2012..
     Robert de Lisle and Robert de Lisle were mentioned in a deed dated 1340 in the manor, Kirkby Overblow. At Westminster, Quindene of Michaelmas, 14 Edward III (1340). Thomas de Insula, quer., Robert de Insula, def., of the manor of Kireby Orblower, except the advowson of the church thereof: To hold (subject to the life estate of William de Risshton) to Thomas and the heirs male of his body, paying yearly to Robert and his heirs one rose at the Nativity of St John the Baptist for all service to them, and doing all other services to the chief lords; remainder to Robert son the said Robert de Insula for life: remainders in succession to Robert and John, sons of the said John, and the heirs male of their bodies; reversion to Robert de Insula and his heirs. William [de Risshton] was present and consenting, and did fealty.
In 1340 Robert de Lisle sold property. Comprising the manor of Kirkby Overblow by a fine: 1340 at Westminster: Thomas de Insula, quer., Robert de Insula, def. of the manor of Kirkby Orblower, except the advowson of the church thereof: To hold (subject to the life estate of William de Risshton) to Thomas and the heirs male of his body, paying yearly to Robert and his heirs one rose at the Nativity of St John the Baptist for all service to them, and doing all other services to the chief lords; remainder to Robert son of the said Robert de Insula for life; remainder to John son the said Robert de Insula for life; remainders in succession to Robert and John, sons of the said John, and the heirs male of their bodies; reversion to Robert de Insula and his heirs. William [de Risshton] was present and consenting, and did fealty. He was the subject of an Inquisition on 23 March 1341/42. Robert del Isle. Writ to the escheator of co. Cambs, etc. to inquire what lands etc. the said Robert held on the day when he was professed in an order of religion etc 23 March 16 Edw III.
Cambs: Inq. taken at Cottenham, 23 April - He held no lands. etc in the county on the day he was professed.
John his son aged 24 & more, is his next heir.
Similar writ to the escheator whi is also to inquire whether the said Robert alienated any lands etc to anyone 3 May 16 Edw III.
Cambs: Inq. taken at Holytone 15 May. Manors of Ramptone, Cotenham & Westwyk & advowdson of church of Wynepol, but alienated them to Alice, daughter of Robert de Insula, Elizabeth Peverell, Richard de Baiocis, Wm de Ruston, Edmunde de Benhale & Henry Ewenny, to hold to them, during their lives, of the said Robert & his heirs, doing the serviced thereto pertaining to the chief lords of that fee, with remainder to John, his son, as appears in a fine levied inthe king's court. The said manor of Rampton is held of John Burdeleys, as of the manor of Maddyngle, by knight's service. The manor of Cotenham is held of the bishop of Ely, by knight's service. The manor of Westwyck and the advowson fo the church of Wynepol, with a certain manor in the town of Great Wilburgham, which the said Robert, before he assumed the habit of religion, alienated to the said John, his son and heir, are held of the earl of Brittany, by service of a sore sparrow-hawk, or half a mark yearly. The said Robert, who held the manor of Coveneye, alienated it long before he assumed the habit of religion, to the aforesaid Alice, etc. to hold to them, for their lives, of the said Robert and his hiers, with remainder to John his son, as appears by fine levied in the king's court. The said manor of Coveneye is held of the prior and convent of Ely, as in socage and by service of 5s yearly. He held no lands etc. in the county on the day he assumed the habit of religion.
     Similar writ to the escheator in co. Oxford, etc. 3 May.
Oxford: Inq. taken at Oxford, 18 May. Hayford Warin. The said Robert, long before he assumed the habit of religion, alienated the manor oto the said Alice etc for their lives, by fine levied in the king's court, at Westminster, 3 weeks from the day of St Michael, 13 Edw III; and it is held of the earl of Cornwall by service of a fifth part of a knight's fee. He held no lands etc. in the bailiwick on the day he was professed. John his son, aged 24 years is his next heir.
Similar writ to the escheator in co. Essex etc. 3 May.
Essex. Inq. taken at Herllawe 17 May. He held no lands etc. in fee in the county on the day he assumed the habit of religion or before.
Hertford. Inq. taken at Ware, 15 May 16 Edw III:
Pysshobury. He held the manor, but long before he assumed the habit of religion he alienated the same to Alice & Elizabeth, daughters of Robert de Isle, Richard de Bayeuse, William de Russhton, Edmund de Benhale and Henry Ewenay, to hold to them for their lives, of the chief lords of that fee, by the accustomed services, with remainder to John his son, to hold for life as above, with further successive remainders to Robert, son of the said John, and the heirs of his body, to hold as above, and to John brother of the said Robert, son of John, and the heirs of his body, to hold as above. The manor is held of Geoffrey de Say, Knight, by service of three knights' fees and three-quarters.
He held no lands etc. in the country of the day he assumd the habit of religion.
John his son, aged 23 years and more, is his next heir
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     Robert died on 4 January 1342/43 aged 53. He was buried at Grey Friars, London. He was the subject of an Inquisition on 23 March 1343. Robert del Isle - Writs to enquire what lands etc the said Robert held on the day when he professed in an order of religion 23 Mar 16 Edw III [c1343]. John his son aged 24 years & more is his next heir; similar writ to the escheator who is also to enquire what lands were alienated prior 3 May 16 Edw III; alienated land to Alice daughter of Robert de Insula, Elizabeth Peverell, Richard de Baiocis, Wm de Ruston, Edmund de Benhale & Henry Ewenny .... during the lives of the said Robert & his heirs ... to Alice & Elizabeth daughter of Robert de Lisle & etc. with remainder to John his son, with succession remainder to Robert, son of said John & to John, brother of the said Robert, son of John ....Re lands at Cambs, Oxford & Hertford. Lands held of Earl of Brittany.
     Robert died on 4 January 1343/44 in London, aged 54. He was buried after 4 January 1343/44 in All Saints Franciscan church, London.
     See Cockayne for details of his career.
He was a minor when his father died, eventually allotted Harewood as heir of the Fitzgerald blood following claim of Hugh de Courtenay to the Redvers estate. He was a distinguished soldier, was created Knight Banneret for gallantry in the field and summoned to parliament as Baron de L'Isle of Rougemont from 1311 to 1342. In the latter year on the death of his wife, he assumed the habit of the religious and himself died a few months later.
     Took holy orders on the death of his wife after settling some of his estates on Alice daughter of Robert de L'Isle, Elizabeth Peverall & Richard Bayeaux for life, the rest to John son of Robert de L'Isle & his heirs. In 1336 the manor of Harewood was worth 40 marks per annum.
     In 1337 granted Harewood to his son John. Robert de Insula presents to the church of Harewood Dec 1310 " " " " " " 1335 Dec 1310, 1321, 1335 Patron of Church after Rex therefore he was first inheritor of Harewood.
He entered the Franciscan Order as priest [Cokayne p.73].
Had land at Rampton, Cotenham & Westwyk, with the advowson of the church of Wynepol, (all at Cambs) but alienated them before he assumed the habit of religion to .... Also had land at Heyford Waryn Oxford, & Pisshobury Hertford. [Farrer Vol 3 p 172-3]. He bore arms: Gules, a lyon passant gardant argent crowned or. Robert de Lisle, of Rougement, baron 1311, appears to be referred to in the first entry. Sir John, his son or grandson, knighted the the capitulation of Calais 1348. Sir Gerard and Sir Warin, of Rutland, both bore the arms at the first Dunstable tournament 1308. Parliamentary roll ascribed to another Gerard in Dering Roll. They are also ascribed to Sir Foulk in Harliean Roll.

Children of Robert de Lisle and Margaret de Beauchamp

Robert de Lisle

(before 1195 - before 1262)
     Robert de Lisle was born before 1195 in England. He was the son of Robert de Lisle and Sarah de Aunus or Danys. Robert de Lisle bore arms: Or, a fess between two chevrons sable. In general the chain mail and accoutrements seem to represent a transitional period between those represented by Longespee on the one hand and by Crouchback on the other. The actual effigy is now much mutilated, and the coat of arms is not visible on either the surcoat or the rounded shield.
It is noteworthy that similar arms, the field argent and the chevrons gules. were borne by the family of Peche, also tenants of Ely. But while it was common for tenants' arms to reflect those of their overlord, the Peches were also tenants of the great Honour of Clare, and it is more likely that they, and possibly the Lisles, derived their arms from the powerful Clares of East Anglia. in the same group were the Fitzwalters, who bore Or, a fess between two chevrons gules.

     Robert de Lisle married Alice FitzGerald, daughter of Henry FitzGerald and Ermentrude de Ferrers (de Grendon), before February 1239/40. Grant from Henry fil. Geroldi to Robert de Insula in marriage with Alice, his daughter, of the whole of his land in Mundeford, Norfolk.
     Robert died before 1262.

Children of Robert de Lisle and Alice FitzGerald

Robert de Lisle

(say 1240 - 1284)
     Robert de Lisle was born say 1240 in England. He was the son of Robert de Lisle and Alice FitzGerald.
     Mabel de Muscegros married secondly Robert de Lisle before 1252. She was a widow at her marriage.
     Robert & Mabel quitclaimed to John de Muscegros 10 librates of land in Kemarton, Gloucestershire, which Mabel had in free marriage from her father, and for this & 200 marks John gave her 20 librates of land in Finborough, Suffolk.
     Robert de Lisle married secondly Alice Unknown (de Lisle). Farrer suggests Alice his second wife may have been elder sister & co-heir of John de Muscegros who died in 1266 holding lands in Cambs & Northampton.
     In 1264 he obtained a charter of free warren in his desmesne lands of Rampton & Wilbraham, Cambridgeshire and Nedging in Suffolk. As Sir Robert de Insula he attested a Cambs. charter about the same time.
     He served in the Army in 1282. Hewas summoned for the campaign against Llewelyn.
     Robert died in 1284.
     His grandson was heir to Isabella de Fortibus, Countess of Albemarle, his kinswoman [His mother's cousin] about 1310.

Child of Robert de Lisle and Mabel de Muscegros

Robert de Lisle

(before 1320 - )
     Robert de Lisle was born before 1320. He was the son of Robert de Lisle and Margaret de Beauchamp.
     Robert de Lisle and Robert de Lisle were mentioned in a deed dated 1340 in the manor, Kirkby Overblow. At Westminster, Quindene of Michaelmas, 14 Edward III (1340). Thomas de Insula, quer., Robert de Insula, def., of the manor of Kireby Orblower, except the advowson of the church thereof: To hold (subject to the life estate of William de Risshton) to Thomas and the heirs male of his body, paying yearly to Robert and his heirs one rose at the Nativity of St John the Baptist for all service to them, and doing all other services to the chief lords; remainder to Robert son the said Robert de Insula for life: remainders in succession to Robert and John, sons of the said John, and the heirs male of their bodies; reversion to Robert de Insula and his heirs. William [de Risshton] was present and consenting, and did fealty.
     Robert, son of Robert de Insula, late Lord of Harewood, released to Sir John de Insula his brother & his heirs all his right in the manor of Harewood with the advowson of the church of the said town [18 Edw III 1345 913450 Dod 122 fol 90, Jones p 79] Yorkshire Feet of fines Mich.1340 etc. - Cockayne p73. Close rolls, Yorks. Arch. Journal, iv, 107.

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     About 1363-4, Robert de Insula de Rubeo Monte to grant land in Harewood to William Gascoigne of Harewood, Agnes his wife, John their son, and the heirs of the said William, retaining the manor of Harewood.
William Gascon of Harewood, Agnes his wife, and John their son to retain land in the manor of Harewood, with John Cok, Richard Botell, and Stephen Gobet, serfs of the same, and their issue, acquired to the petitioners and the heirs of the said William from Robert de Insula, knight, who retains the manor of Harewood
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Robert de Lisle

     Robert de Lisle was also known as fitz Ralph in records. He was born. Ralph's son, Robert, possibly named for Robert the Chamberlain, was the first to be named de Insula or de L'Isle. In 1236 his descendant, Robert de Insula, was stated to be holding two of the four hides, representing 200 acres, in the smaller manor of Wilbraham of the honour of Brittany - a good indication that he had inherited the moiety as a descendant of Ralph the steward/chamberlain and his wife.
The gift of Wilbraham was confirmed to him between 1158 & 1169.
This family appears to have taken its name from the Isle of Ely.Their arms, a fesse between two chevrons, differed in tinctures only from those of Pecche, who also held immediately of the Bishop.

Whether or not Robert I's mother was Beatrice, there is no evidence. If she was, Robert would have been the elder son as his mother was married to Ralph by 1158 whereas Richard de Cormeilles, Beatrice's husband, died in 1177. Walter de Cormeilles was one of the five coheirs in the other moiety of Wilbraham and in Wendy, to which if he had been the second son, he would not have been entitled. There does not appear anything explicit that the de L'Isles inherited land of the Chamberlain's fee after Nigel's death (except perhaps subtenancy of a knight's fee in Malton in Orwell, Cambs. in conjunction with Westwick and Oakington of the honour of Richmond) and it's chronologically possible for Ralph's wife to have been a sister of Robert the Chamberlain. He was the son of Ralph fitz Olaf and Daughter.
     He held half a knight's fee in Exning of Robert de Valoines in 1166.
     Robert de Lisle married Galiena Blund, daughter of William Blund, before December 1167. Geoffrey Riddell, Archdeacon of Canterbury, gave the said Galiena on her marriage to Robert the land that was Mainer the Porter's at Exning. Confirmed by Henry II Nov-Dec 1167.

Child of Robert de Lisle and Galiena Blund

Robert de Lisle

(between 1160 and 1170 - )
     Robert de Lisle was born between 1160 and 1170. He was the son of Robert de Lisle and Galiena Blund.
     His wife was supposed to be Beatrice de Cormeilles but I have removed this for some reason. However note: Her parentage from CP is questioned and Gordon Kirkemo has come upwith the suggesiton that she might be the daughter of Robert camerarius, chamberlain to the earl of Richmond and that she then m. Richard de Cormeilles:

From: "Chris Phillips"
Subject: Re: Apparent CP/DD Conflict (de Lisle) Sat, 10 Jul 2004 00:01:43 +0100
Gordon Kirkemo wrote: ...
> Now, in CP Vol. VIII, Sub Lisle, there is a chart showing the descent of Lisle of Rougemont and Lisle of Kingston Lisle. The second Robert de Insula is shown with a wife named Beatrice de Cormeilles, who according to the chart is the daughter of Ralph, sewer to the Earl of Richmond. This is also reported on page 69 in the text for Lisle of Rougemont.
In DD (page 200), I find Robert Camerarius, Chamberlain to earl Conan of Richmond, and son and successor to Odo Camerarius. He is described as having three sons and four daughters. The daughters were his eventual heirs, and one of them is identified as Beatrice, wife of (1) Richard de Cormeilles and (2) of Robert de Lisle. I also find a Radulf Camerarius identified as chamberlain to Earl Conan with no additional information concerning parentage or children.
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I can't resolve the conflict (though CP does have a definite citation that's meant to show that the Robert de Lisle of c. 1207 was a grandson of Ralph the sewer, and DD gives enough references that the evidence may become clearer).
I do think the chronology of the DD version is very strange. Combining the entry for Robert Camerarius on p. 200 with that for Ricardus de Cormeilles on pp. 410, 411, it seems we have (with other siblings, omitted):
1. Odo, Domesday tenant 1086
2. His son Robert, succeeded by 1129/30
3. His daughter Beatrice, married first to Richard de Cormeilles (active by 1134, d. either 1175/6 [p. 411] or 1177 [p. 200]), then remarried to Robert de Lisle and (if CP is to be believed) bearing him a child.
I don't know which bit is likely to be wrong, but I find it very difficult to believe.
It seems possible that Camerarius and Cormeilles might both be derivatives of Chamberlain, but that is only a wild guess on my part. Camerarius is certainly latin for Chamberlain, but Cormeilles is a place name (Eure, arrondissement Point-Audemer, according to DP 155). Chris Phillips.      
Robert de Lisle was Sheriff of Cambridgeshire between 1198 and 1201.
     About 1208, he was party to a suit for the church of Wimpole by Saher de Quincy in which Ralph the Steward is named as Robert's grandfather.

Children of Robert de Lisle

Robert de Lisle

(circa 1190 - after 1238)
     Robert de Lisle was born circa 1190 in England. He was the son of Robert de Lisle.
     Robert de Lisle married Sarah de Aunus or Danys, daughter of Eborard de Aunus or Danys, before 1195. Robert de Lisle claims the manor of Combes, Suffolk, as next of kin of Sarah, wife of Roger son of Piers Fitzosbern - viz s & h of Warin, s & h of Robert, s & h of Robert, s & h of Sarah, sister of Geoffrey, father of Margery, mother of Sarah FitzOsbern.
     Robert de Lisle lived at Rougemont, Bedfordshire.
     In 9 John (after May 1207) Robert claimed the advowson of Wimpole, co. Cambridge, under charter of Conan, lord of the Honour of Richmond, to his grandfather Ralph, sewer of the said Conan.
     He held 1 fee in Rampton & Cottenham of the Bishop of Ely and a quarter of a fee in Westwick to farm of the Chamberlain's fee, and 2 fees in Nedging, Suffolk in 1212.
Eustace Picot granted 1 knight's fee at Rampton before c. 1156 to Ralph, chamberlain of Bishop Niel of Ely and ancestor of the Lisles. About 1212 Robert de Lisle held it of the bishop of Ely. In 1260 Geoffrey Burdeleys confirmed Rampton to Sir Robert de Lisle, the first Robert's son. (Footnote 33) Sir Robert, who died between 1260 and 1262, was succeeded by his son Robert (d. 1284), who was granted free warren in 1264.
     Robert de Lisle married secondly Roese de Wahull circa September 1213. He had no issue by his second marriage to Rohaise/Rose, widow of Robert de Tateshal/Tattershalll (died 1212), sister & heir to John de Wahul who died in1217l. She predeceased him in 1221 but her goods etc went to her late husband Ralph de Stopham. Obviously a mix-up here.
     1/17 (08 October 1217) Bedfordshire. Buckinghamshire. Northamptonshire. Kent. Robert de Lisle and Rose of Tattershall, his wife, and Robert of Bassingham and Agnes of Bassingham, sisters of John of Odell, have made fine with the king by £200 for their relief and for having the lands formerly of John which fall to them by inheritance, of which they are to render £100 at Hilary in the second year and the other £100 at Easter next following in the same year. Order to the sheriff of Bedfordshire that, having accepted security from Rose and Agnes for rendering the aforesaid £200 at the aforesaid terms, he is to cause them to have full seisin of the lands formerly of John which fall to them by inheritance. Order to the sheriffs of Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire and Kent that once the sheriff of Bedfordshire has sent to them by his letters that he has taken security from Rose and Agnes for rendering that fine to the king, they are to cause them to have full seisin of all lands formerly of John in their bailiwicks without delay.
1/23 (12 October 1217). Pledges for Robert de Lisle and Rose, his wife: Walter de Valognes for 10 m. Walter Engeram for 20 m. Osbert Gifford for £10. Richard de Argentan for £10. Thomas son of Stephen for £10. Thomas de Albo Monasterio for £10. William Blund for £10. Hugh Bigod for £15. John Marshal for £15. Sum, £100.
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     He was mentioned in the Rolls of the Justices in Eyre, Kings Court (Pleas & Assizes) 3 Hen III Yorkshire (Selden Society v.56) #324 -William, son of Geoffrey, essoiner of Richard Gubian, Alice de Stutville's attorney, offered himself on the 4th day against Agnes, wife of William son of Warin & Rohesia wife of Robert de Insula in a plea taking their chirograph ... to appear in 15 days from Easter (21 April 1219) at Westminster.
     Robert de Lisle and Rose, his wife, have made fine with the king by £100 for having the other moiety of the aforesaid barony, which falls to Rose by inheritance, and for relief of the same. They have found pledges for the aforesaid fine which are written on the dorse of this roll. Order … [Et mandatum est …] 3/392 (17 September 1219).
     5/327 (05 October 1221) Order to R. earl of Chester and Lincoln to cause the chattels from the lands of Rose, who was the wife of Robert of Tattershall of the honour of Richmond , which his bailiffs of the honour have seized, to be restored to Robert de Lisle , who later had Rose to wife, so that he might pay the debts he owes to the king and so that the executors of Rose’s testament may value the remainder and cause the testament to be executed. Witness as above.
5/328 (05 October 1221)
Bedfordshire. Order to the sheriff of Bedfordshire to cause the chattels from the lands that the same Robert de Lisle held of the inheritance of Rose, his former wife, which he took into his hand, to be restored to the same Robert without delay, so that he renders the debt that he owes to the king. Witness as above.
5/329 (05 October 1221)
Order to Robert of Tattershall to restore to Robert de Lisle without delay the chattels from the lands that the aforesaid Rose held in dower of her inheritance, which he caused to be taken into his hand, so that he might pay the debt he owes the king. Witness as above.
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     In 1236 Ralph's descendant, Robert de Insula, was stated to be holding two of the four hides, representing 200 acres, in the smaller manor of Wilbraham of the honour of Brittany - a good indication that he had inherited the moiety as a descendant of Ralph the steward/chamberlain and his wife. Robert de Lisle bore arms: Or, a fess between two chevrons sable. In general the chain mail and accoutrements seem to represent a transitional period between those represented by Longespee on the one hand and by Crouchback on the other. The actual effigy is now much mutilated, and the coat of arms is not visible on either the surcoat or the rounded shield.
It is noteworthy that similar arms, the field argent and the chevrons gules. were borne by the family of Peche, also tenants of Ely. But while it was common for tenants' arms to reflect those of their overlord, the Peches were also tenants of the great Honour of Clare, and it is more likely that they, and possibly the Lisles, derived their arms from the powerful Clares of East Anglia. in the same group were the Fitzwalters, who bore Or, a fess between two chevrons gules.
He was buried in Rampton, Cambridgeshire. N the church at Rampton in Cambridgeshire is the effigy of Robert de Lisle, son of Robert de Lisle and Beatrice de Cormeilles, coheiress of Ralph, the Earl of Richmond's chamberlain. The family name, de Lisle or de Insula, is probably taken from the Isle of Ely where they held lands of the Earl of Richmond and of the Bishop of Ely. They are not connected with the ancient family of the same name from the Isle of Wight.
     Robert died after 1238. He was living in 1236-8, in Cambridgeshire. The exact date of Robert's death is unknown, but he was living in 1221. He married twice. Robert and Gerard, his two sons by his first wife, were founders respectively of the house of de Lisle of Rougemont in Yorkshire and of Kingston Lisle in Berkshire. Members of both families were summoned to Parliament as barons in the fourteenth century.

Child of Robert de Lisle and Sarah de Aunus or Danys

Robert de Lisle 3rd Baron

(6 May 1336 - 1399)
     Robert de Lisle 3rd Baron was born on 6 May 1336 in Rampton, Cambridgeshire. He was the son of John de Lisle 2nd Baron and Maud or Matilda Grey.
John, Robert and John was party to a deed dated 1340 in the manor, Kirkby Overblow; At Westminster, Quindene of Michaelmas, 14 Edward III (1340). Thomas de Insula, quer., Robert de Insula, def., of the manor of Kireby Orblower, except the advowson of the church thereof: To hold (subject to the life estate of William de Risshton) to Thomas and the heirs male of his body, paying yearly to Robert and his heirs one rose at the Nativity of St John the Baptist for all service to them, and doing all other services to the chief lords; remainder to Robert son the said Robert de Insula for life: remainders in succession to Robert and John, sons of the said John, and the heirs male of their bodies; reversion to Robert de Insula and his heirs. William [de Risshton] was present and consenting, and did fealty. Robert de Lisle 3rd Baron was mentioned at the Inquisition Post Mortem held on 23 March 1341/42 on the death of Robert de Lisle. Robert del Isle. Writ to the escheator of co. Cambs, etc. to inquire what lands etc. the said Robert held on the day when he was professed in an order of religion etc 23 March 16 Edw III.
Cambs: Inq. taken at Cottenham, 23 April - He held no lands. etc in the county on the day he was professed.
John his son aged 24 & more, is his next heir.
Similar writ to the escheator whi is also to inquire whether the said Robert alienated any lands etc to anyone 3 May 16 Edw III.
Cambs: Inq. taken at Holytone 15 May. Manors of Ramptone, Cotenham & Westwyk & advowdson of church of Wynepol, but alienated them to Alice, daughter of Robert de Insula, Elizabeth Peverell, Richard de Baiocis, Wm de Ruston, Edmunde de Benhale & Henry Ewenny, to hold to them, during their lives, of the said Robert & his heirs, doing the serviced thereto pertaining to the chief lords of that fee, with remainder to John, his son, as appears in a fine levied inthe king's court. The said manor of Rampton is held of John Burdeleys, as of the manor of Maddyngle, by knight's service. The manor of Cotenham is held of the bishop of Ely, by knight's service. The manor of Westwyck and the advowson fo the church of Wynepol, with a certain manor in the town of Great Wilburgham, which the said Robert, before he assumed the habit of religion, alienated to the said John, his son and heir, are held of the earl of Brittany, by service of a sore sparrow-hawk, or half a mark yearly. The said Robert, who held the manor of Coveneye, alienated it long before he assumed the habit of religion, to the aforesaid Alice, etc. to hold to them, for their lives, of the said Robert and his hiers, with remainder to John his son, as appears by fine levied in the king's court. The said manor of Coveneye is held of the prior and convent of Ely, as in socage and by service of 5s yearly. He held no lands etc. in the county on the day he assumed the habit of religion.
     Similar writ to the escheator in co. Oxford, etc. 3 May.
Oxford: Inq. taken at Oxford, 18 May. Hayford Warin. The said Robert, long before he assumed the habit of religion, alienated the manor oto the said Alice etc for their lives, by fine levied in the king's court, at Westminster, 3 weeks from the day of St Michael, 13 Edw III; and it is held of the earl of Cornwall by service of a fifth part of a knight's fee. He held no lands etc. in the bailiwick on the day he was professed. John his son, aged 24 years is his next heir.
Similar writ to the escheator in co. Essex etc. 3 May.
Essex. Inq. taken at Herllawe 17 May. He held no lands etc. in fee in the county on the day he assumed the habit of religion or before.
Hertford. Inq. taken at Ware, 15 May 16 Edw III:
Pysshobury. He held the manor, but long before he assumed the habit of religion he alienated the same to Alice & Elizabeth, daughters of Robert de Isle, Richard de Bayeuse, William de Russhton, Edmund de Benhale and Henry Ewenay, to hold to them for their lives, of the chief lords of that fee, by the accustomed services, with remainder to John his son, to hold for life as above, with further successive remainders to Robert, son of the said John, and the heirs of his body, to hold as above, and to John brother of the said Robert, son of John, and the heirs of his body, to hold as above. The manor is held of Geoffrey de Say, Knight, by service of three knights' fees and three-quarters.
He held no lands etc. in the country of the day he assumd the habit of religion.
John his son, aged 23 years and more, is his next heir
. Robert de Lisle 3rd Baron was the heir of John de Lisle 2nd Baron at the Inquisition Post Mortem held on 28 November 1355. John de Insula de Rougemont (Rubeo Monte). Writ, 28 November, 29 Edward III [1355].
Oxford - Inq. taken at Wodestok, Thursday 11 February 30 Edw III [1356]. He held no lands in the county. He died 14 Oct last. Robert his son aged 22 years and more, is his heir.
Writ 28 November 29 Edw III
Bedford. Inq taken at Shefford, Tuesday after the Epiphany, 29 Edw III.
Cambelton. The manor held jointly with Maud his wife, of the king in chief, service not known. He held no other lands etc in the bailiwick. He died on 9 Oct last. Robert de Insula of Rougemont, his son, aged 20 years and more is his heir.
Writ 28 Nov 28 Edw III.
Hertford. Inq. taken at Sabrichewroth, 29 Feb 30 Edw III.
Sabricheworth. The manor of Pisshobury, held for a term of 30 years by demise of Alice, daughter of Robert de Insula, Elizabeth Peverell, Richard de Baious, William de Ruston, Edmond de Benhale and Henry Ewenny, who held the said manor by fine levied in the king's court, by gift of Robert de Insula, father of the deceased, for their lives, at a rent of a rose yearly, with successive remainders to the deceased, Robert son of the deceased, & the heirs of his body, John brother of the said Robert and the heirs of his body, & ultimate reversion to Robert de Insula, the grantor and his heirs. The said manor is held of Sir Geoffrey de Say, as of his manor of Sabricheworth, by knight's service.
He died 14 Oct last. Robert his son, aged 20 years and more, is his heir.
Writ 28 November 29 Edw III
Cambridge. Inq. taken at Cambridge, Friday before St Valentine, 30 Edw III.
Gt Wilburgham. The manor (extent given) held jointly with Maud his wife who survives, and the heirs of their bodies, of the earl of Brittany by service of doing suit every month at the said earl's court of Badburgham, by gift of Robert de Insula, deceased.
Rampton, Cotenham, Westwyk & Coveneye. The manors held at farm for a term of 30 years by demise of Alice, daughter of Robert de Insula, and others etc. as Pisshobury, Herts. The manor of Rampton is held of the heirs of John de Burdeleys, as of his manor of Cotenham, by knight's service; the manor of Cotenham of the bishop of Ely by knight's service; the manor of Westwyk of the earl of Brittany by knight's service and by service a the said earl's tourn twice a year; and the manor of Coveneye of the prior of Ely by knight's service.
Date of death and heir as in preceding.
Writ 28 November, 29 Edw III
York. Inq. taken at Harewod, Saturday in the second week of Lent, 309 Edw III.
Harewod. The manor with its members (extent given) held of the king in chief as of the crown by service of a knight's free and by rendering 18s yearly by the hands of the sheriff to the fines of the wapentake of Skirayk. The said members are Carleton, Neuhale, Stokton, Helthwayt and Donkesewyk, and the extent includes 120 acres sour (morose) land, a small park with deer, a market every Saturday and a fair on St Swithin's day, Kirkeby Orblaweres. He was sometime seised of the manor, but two years and more before his death he gave it to Thomas de Walkefare, knight for life. The said Thomas survives. It is held of Henry de Percy by knight's service and by rendering 8 shillings yearly and doing suit at his court of Spofford every three weeks.
He held no other lands in the county.
Date of death as in the preceding. Robert de Insula, knight, his son, aged 20 years or more is his heir.
1355-6 Cal Inq P.M. #258: 28 Nov 29 Edw III aged 22 and at Lent 30 Edw III aged 20 at his father's inquisition. Robert de Lisle 3rd Baron was the heir of Robert de Lisle 3rd Baron at the Inquisition Post Mortem held on 22 May 1357. Robert, son & heir of John de Insula of Rougemont.
Writ to the escheator to take the proof of age of the said Robert, whose lands etc are in the king's custody. 22 May 31 Edw III.
Cambridge. Proof of age taken at Rampton, Tuesday before Holy Trinity, 31 Edw III.
Richard Roberd, aged 42 says that the said Robert is 21 years of age and more from St John before the Latein Gate last, and that he was born & bapt at Rampton. This he knows because in the year preceding the said heir's birth, Robert, his own brother was killed at Rampton and since then he has gone there yearly to keep his brother's anniversary.
John Gavelok, aged 46, and John Haldeyn aged 41 agree, and say that the birth of the said heir was entered in the missal of the church of Rampton, which book they have very often inspected.
Others confirm this.
     Summoned to parliament as Robertus de Insula de Rubeo Monte, 3rd Baron of Rougemont 15 Dec 1357 (31 Edw III) and 20 Nov 34 Edw III (1360), Lord of Rougemonte & Wilbraham, Cambs. Aged 22 or 20 at his father's inquisition.
     Robert de Lisle 3rd Baron married Agnes de Lisle before 10 August 1359.
     Robert de Lisle 3rd Baron and Sir William de Aldeburgh were mentioned in a deed dated 1364 in Harewood, Yorkshire. Inquisition whether it would be to the detriment of the King or of others that Robert de l'Isle of Rougemont, kt should enfeoff William de Aldeburgh kt and Elizabeth his wife of 2 parts of the manor of Harewood, which he held in chief: and should concede that the third part of the said manor, which Maud late the wife of John de l'Isle of Rougemont, father of Robert, held in dowry, should remain after Maud's death to Wm & Elizabeth.
Robert de l'Isle paid £70 pre licencia feoffandi the two parts of the manor, 16 June 1634.
Cokayne notes that the remainder was to the heirs of William not Elizabeth.
]Robert was paid 1000 pounds for Harewood by his brother-in-law William Aldburgh in 1365. [Fine 38 Edw III].
          In 1364 he had permission from the King to alienate to Sir William de Aldburgh, Elizabeth his wife, and to the heirs of Sir William, two thirds of the manor of Harewood (a messuage & one oxgang in Carleton excepted) and the reversion of the other third which his mother Matilda held in dower... [Parker]. He was paid 1000 pounds for Harewood by his brother-in-law William Aldburgh in 1365. Fine 38 Edw III (1364-5). Cokayne notes that the remainder was to the heirs of William not Elizabeth - there is no evidence that she was his sister. In 1377 he conveyed to his brother William the manor of Campton.
     In 1366 he re-licenced the de Lisle chantry at Harewood church.
     On 24 Nov 1368 he surendered to the King 86 knights fees in Kent, Sussex, Cambs, Essex, Herts, Oxon, Berks, Wilts, Norfolk, Suffolk, Beds, Northants, & elsewhere and on the same day the King granted exemption from attending parliament, etc charged with taxes, etc. and war service against his will.

     Issue: Sir William Lisle of Waterperry Oxford (1623 Somersetshire visitation- doubtful but see Cokayne for detailed illegitimate descent who settled at Wilbraham, Rutland).
     Robert de Lisle 3rd Baron and Sir William de Aldeburgh were mentioned in a deed dated 1377 or 1378. In 1377/8, a further fine between William de Aldburgh (his wife being dead) & Robert confirming the manor... Harewood was one of 90 manors held by Robert [Originalia Roll 42 Edw III].
     In 1377/8 Robert conveyed to his brother William, the manor of Campton.
     Robert de Lisle 3rd Baron married Margaret Unknown (de Lisle) before 22 October 1380.
     A petition from John de Wyndesore (Windsor), addressees: King and lords of parliament. John de Wyndesore states that a judgment given by the council in the King's fourteenth year found that Robert de Lisle had wrongly expelled him from the manors of Rampton, Cottenham, and Westwick in Cambridgeshire, and the King, on the advice of his council, decreed that he should be restored to them. He sued various writs to Robert and to the Sheriff of Cambridgeshire to have restitution, but in the meantime Richard de Scrop purchased the manors by champerty, in full knowledge of the circumstances, and alienated them to William Scrop his son, so that John can have no execution of his writs. He asks that he might be restored to his manors. This petition is enrolled on the roll of the parliament of 1394 (Rot. Parl. vol. III pp.310a-313b (no.10)).CPR 1388-92 p.472 is dated 27 July 1391; CPR 1391-6 p.388 is dated 14 March 1394.
     Robert died in 1399 in England.

Warin de Lisle

(say 1260 - before 7 December 1296)
     Warin de Lisle was born say 1260 in England. He was the son of Robert de Lisle and Mabel de Muscegros.
     Warin de Lisle married Alice de Montfort, daughter of Sir Piers de Montfort Lord of Beaudesert.
     His father Robert was living June 1283 but died before the end of 1284 when Warin his son & heir had terms for payment of the crown debt of his father. Warin held land in Finborough of the bishop of Ely in 1286, and in the following year claimed view of frankpledge in Campton & Shifford, and cited charters made by Henry III to Warin FitGerald his predecessor.
     The prior and convent of Bolton in Craven to have confirmation by the king of a grant of mills and land in Harewood by Cecily Romley, land in Weeton and Rawdon by Amice her daughter, right to take wood in Langewood, to repair the said mills by Margery deRipariis, the towns of Wigton and Brandon by Peter de Marton, a croft called `Whyttelecroft' by John de Goukethorp, and burgages in Harewood and land near Kearby dam by Warin son of Gerold, which grants have been confirmed by Isabel de Fortibus, countess of Albemarle, as chief lord of the fee. York.
     In 1294 he was going to Gascony as yeoman of Thomas Latimer of Warden.
Warin de Lisle was a petitioner Warren del Idle (Lisle) petitioned the King. - Idle requests that the treasurer be commanded to give him livery of the issues from the manors of Harewood, Heyford, Nuneham Courtenay and Sawbridgeworth which were part of the lands of Isabel de Forz as he was granted them by the king but still has not had livery. Endorsement: It is attested by the barons of the Exchequer that the bailiffs have not yet answered at the Exchequer of the issues, but he is to come to the Exchequer upon his account at the Exchequer, and they will answer there according to the form of his writ which he has there in Harewood, Yorkshire, in 1294.
     Warin died before 7 December 1296. His widow had dower assigned to her 18 Feb 1296/7. He was the subject of an Inquisition Post Mortem held on 7 December 1296. Writ 7 Dec 25 1296 Edward I: Suffolk: Inq. made at Semere on Wednesday after SS Fabian & Sebastian, Suffolk: Noddinge: The manor (extent given) held of the Bishop of Ely by service of 2 knights frees; and 4d ought to be paid yearly too the hundred of Cosford, and 3d to the parson of Bildeston. He demised the manor two years ago to Hervey de Stanton for life.
Inq. made at Fynebergh, 4 Jan 25 Edw I, 1296/7. The manor (extent given) wherof the said Warin de Insula and Alice his wife, who still survives, were enfeoffed jointly by one Nicholas de Charterey to them and the heirs of the said Warin and of the chief lords, viz. of the heirs of the Sir Robert de Mucegros, by service of a knights fee; and the said Alice remained in seisin with her husband until his death, and afterwards until the manor was taken into the King's hand. Robert his son, aged 6 years on the feast of Ss Fabian & Sebastian next, is his next heir.
Cambridge: Inq made at Cambridge on the day of St Thomas the Apostle, 25 Edw I. Rampstone. The manor (extent given) including rents at Wynepol pertaining thereto, the advowson of the church at Wynepole, and a fisher, held jointly as above, by the enfeoffment of the said Nicholas, of Geoffrey de Burdeleys by service of 1 3/4 knight's fee.
Cotenham. The manor held of the bishop of Ely by service of a moiety of a knight's fee.
Coveney with Maneye. The manor held in socage of the prior of Ely by service of 5sh. Heir as above.
Bedford: Inq. made at Sheford on Saturday after St Thomas the Apostle, 25 Edw I.
Kamelton. The manor (extent given), including 15 acres fo wood devastated in the time of the said Warin, held of the king in chief, as an escheat fo the lands etc late of the countess of Albemarle, by service of 1/2 knight's fee; and Nicholasd de Meperdeshale ought to received 2d yearly for 4 acres of meadow, and Nicholas Tuppeest (?) 2d. Heir as above, aged 6 years and more.
Writ (ad melius inquirendum) because by the previous inquisition it does not appear whether the manor of Kamelton was held of the dower of the countess of the lands late of William de Fortibus, her husband, or of the lands of her own inheritance, 25 June 25 Edw I.
Bedford: Inq. made at Sefford on Friday after Ss Peter & Paul, 25 Edw I.
Camelton. The said Warin held the manor of the escheat of the lands which were of the said countess, which she held of her own inheritance, by service of 1/2 knight's fee; and the countess held of the earl of Gloucester by the said service, as is believed, of 1/2 knight's fee
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     An entry in the Originalia Roll 3 Edw II 13, (1309) states that Robert de L'Isle then long since dead held the manor of Harewood of the Kings father (Edw I) in chief, and that it was in the King's hand by reason of the minority of the heir. Owing to the claim of Hugh de Courtenay to the Redvers estates gave the crown a pretext for seizing them until Hugh came of age. Meanwhile Warin son of Robert also died leaving his son Robert a minor...
He was sometimes described as of Rubeomonte. The Coram Rege roll Easter 35 Edw I mentions their younger son Baldwin.
     A petition from the abbot and convent of Fountains Abbey request remedy because they hold Stainburn and the moiety of Rigton in Wharfedale of Lisle, lord of Harewood, confirmed by the King's progenitors, which lands the King [had put] in forest and then deforested by his charter, and charged the abbot and his tenants of Stainburn and Rigton with puture and prevented him from clearing ground and making profit from the woods in his lordship, and the abbot is made to amerce those who trespass in his wood in the King's court of Knaresborough, and for other grievances done to him and his tenants in his lordship, as if Stainburn and the moiety of Rigton were in the forest and lordship of Knaresborough, when they are not.
Endorsement: The charter should be shown in Chancery and then, if Stainburn etc. is in Wharfedale, the keeper or steward of the Forest of Knaresborough should be ordered to cease the exactions of puture and not to impede the abbot doing as he pleases with his animals, and not to do anything contrary to the tenure of the charter. Note There is no date on the guard. The index identifies the abbot in question as probably Walter de Cokewold who held the office from 1316 until 1330.
     Warin de Lisle was the subject of an Inquisition Post Mortem held in 1327. Warin de Insula - writ 10 Feb I Edw III re lands in Norfolk, Northants, Berks. Mentions his wife Alice and his heir, son Gerard aged 22/23, the lands were held of Sir Robert de Insula. Is this the next generation or or the sharing of his lands when another son came of age?.

Children of Warin de Lisle and Alice de Montfort

Warin de Lisle

(circa 1271? - 16 March 1321/22)
     He was a knight banneret? Calendar of Inq p.m. Henry Tyeyes, Tieus, Tyas, Tyeus, or le Tyeys. Writ 8 Feb I Edward III (1326/7): Alice, late the wife of Warin de Insula , sister of the said Henry, aged 30 years of more is his next heir. Held land at Fretewell & Ok Oxford of Robert de Insula by service of a knight's fee. His wife died 2 Aug 1347.
In the beginning of Edward II's reign, he was constituted governor of Windsor Castle and warden of the forest. For years, subsequently, he was engaged in Scotland, by joining Thomas, earl of Lancaster, against the Spencers, 1320-1, and sharing in the discomforture of his chief, he was taken prisoner, and hanged at York, with the Lord Mowbray and several others. After which, it was found in 1327, that he died seised of the manors of Bouden, Kingston, and Panfiore in Berks; Mundiford in Norfolk and Kistingury in Northamptonshire; leaving Gerard his son, 23 years of age and Alice his wife, sister and heir of Henry, Baron Tyes surviving. Warin de Lisle was born circa 1271?. Possibly in 1277. He was the son of Gerard de Lisle and Alice de Armenters.
     Warin de Insula, knight, and Alice widow of Gerard de Insula. 11 July 18 Edw. I - Warin has granted to Alice the custody of Warin, son and heir of Gerard de Insula, her late husband, with the lands and holdings which were of Gerard when he died in the vills of Kyngeston and Mundeford, until the full age of Warin; for 310 marks paid to him and to Walter de Langeton, king's clerk, viz. to him 60 marks at the feast of St. Peter in chains next coming [1 Aug.], and to Walter 100 marks at the feast of All Saints next coming [1 Nov.], and at Easter 50 marks to Walter, and at Michaelmas 50 marks to Walter, and at Michaelmas 20 Edw. I [1292] 50 marks to him
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     Petitioners: Warren del Idle (Lisle). Addressees: King. Idle requests that the treasurer be commanded to give him livery of the issues from the manors of Harewood, Heyford, Nuneham Courtenay and Sawbridgeworth which were part of the lands of Isabel de Forz as he was granted them by the king but still has not had livery.
Nature of endorsement: It is attested by the barons of the Exchequer that the bailiffs have not yet answered at the Exchequer of the issues, but he is to come to the Exchequer upon his account at the Exchequer, and they will answer there according to the form of his writ which he has there.
Places mentioned: Harewood, [West Riding of] Yorkshire; Heyford, [Oxfordshire]; Nuneham Courtenay, Oxfordshire; Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire.
The petition is dated to c. 1294 as the probable original order to pay the issues prior to the petition was made on 19 July 1294, and it seems unlikely that the petition can be much later than 1295
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     Warin de Lisle married Alice Tyes before 1304. Warin de Lisle, of Kingston Lisle (in Sparsholt), Berkshire (died
1322) married before 1304 Alice, daughter of Henry Teyes, Lord Teyes, of Alverton, Cornwall, and Chilton Foliat, Wiltshire, by his wife, Hawise
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     Warin died on 16 March 1321/22 in Pontefract, Yorkshire. At Boroughbridge he was captured, condemned as a traitor and executed at Pontefract, being dragged by horses & was hanged and was buried in the Blackfriars church there. He was a supporter of Lancaster & their estates were eventually returned with a general pardon. He was buried in 1322 in Pontefract & Chilton, Wiltshire. He was the subject of an Inquisition Post Mortem held between February 1326 and 1327. Warin de Insula - writ 10 Feb I Edw III re lands in Norfolk (Mundeford), Northamptonshire (Stowe & Kislingbury), Berkshire (Kington, Fauelore, Budene & Pesmere). Mentions his wife Alice who was jointly seised of the manors and townships, and his heir, son Gerard aged 22/23, the Norfolk lands were held of Sir Robert de Insula by service of a sore sparrow-hawk yearly.
     Warin de Lisle was the subject of an Inquisition Post Mortem held on 10 February 1327/28. He died seized of the manors of Bouden, Kingston and Fanflore in Berkshire, Mundiford in Norfolk, and Kistingbury in Northamptonshire, leaving Gerard, his son aged 23, and Alice his wife, sister & heir of Henry, Baron Teyes surviving. Edw III, v.7.

Children of Warin de Lisle and Alice Tyes