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     Richard Gascoigne was born circa 1413. He was the son of Chief Justice William Gascoigne and Joan Pickering (Greystock).

     Robert Gascoigne was born circa 1410. He was the son of Chief Justice William Gascoigne and Joan Pickering (Greystock).

     Thomas resided at Burghwallis, Yorkshire, England. He was the son of William Gascoigne and Margaret Fitzwilliam.
     Thomas died in 1554.

     Sir Thomas Gascoigne married Mary Vavasour, daughter of Sir Henry Vavasour and Joan Gascoigne, circa 1475.

     William Gascoigne was born circa 1405 in Gawthorpe, Yorkshire. Son of the William who was Knight of the Shire in May 1421 and was born about 1405 , being aged 18 and more at his father's inq. p.m. in 1423.
Knt., of Gawthorpe, Thorp Arch, etc., Yorkshire, Knight of the Shire of Yorkshire, Sheriff of Yorkshire, son and heir of William Gascoigne, of Gawthorpe, Thorp Arch, Shipley, etc., Yorkshire, Knight of the Shire for Yorkshire, by Joan, said to be a daughter and heiress of Henry Wyman. He was the son of William Gascoigne and Jane Wyman.
     Margaret Clarell married thirdly William Gascoigne before 7 February 1425/26 in Sheffield district, Yorkshire. He married clandestinely, before 7 Feb 1425/6, Margaret Clarel. She married as her third husband Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe. Monument at Harewood Church.      
William Gascoigne was a Member of Parliament from 1430 to 1435 for Yorkshire. He succeeded his father in 1422 and was knighted by 1429. He was High Sheriff in 1441-2. His administrative careeer was barely affected by his part in the murder of Thomas Dawson, a Tadcaster collier, for which he was pardoned in 1445. He was MP for Yorkshire on at least two occasions, in 1431 and 1435, and he or his son sat in 1453. Since the sons were invariably called William, identification is difficult, but Sir Wiliam was pardoned in 1461 and died before 1466.
     William died before 1454 in Gawthorpe, Yorkshire. He was alive in Feb 1448/9, but Margaret was a widow not later than March 1453/4.. He was buried in Harewood.

     William Gascoigne was born before 1396. He was the son of Chief Justice William Gascoigne and Elizabeth Mowbray.
William Gascoigne married Jane Wyman before 1405.      
William Gascoigne was Constituency: YORKSHIRE May 1421
Family and Education: s. and h. of Sir William Gascoigne (d. 6 Dec. 1419), c.j. KB, of Gawthorpe by his 1st w. Elizabeth, da. of Alexander Mowbray of Stokton-on-the-Moor. m. by c.1405, Joan, da. of Sir Henry Wyman, 2s. inc. William^†, 3da. Kntd. by Oct. 1419.1
Offices Held: Steward, constable and master forester of Knaresborough in the duchy of Lancaster, Yorks. 17 Feb. 1422-d.2
Biography: William Gascoigne was born into a family noted for its attachment to the house of Lancaster. His father and namesake, one of the leading lawyers of the early 15th century, had served Henry of Bolingbroke as an attorney and trustee, so when his patron became King of England, in 1399, rapid promotion was assured. From 1400 until Henry’s death, 13 years later, Gascoigne held office as c.j.KB, the premier judge of the realm; and although the accession of Henry V brought his career to an end, he enjoyed a peaceful retirement, living in some state on his manor of Gawthorpe. The judge’s brother, Richard (d.1423), had also sat on Bolingbroke’s council; and he, too, received his due reward, becoming chief steward of the north parts of the duchy of Lancaster. The subject of this biography is first mentioned in 1417, when he obtained from his neighbour, Sir Richard Redmayne*, a grant of half the manor of Kelfield, which belonged to Redmayne’s wife, Elizabeth, a sister and coheir of William, 2nd Lord Aldeburgh. Relations between the Gascoignes and the Redmaynes remained cordial, and were later strengthened by the marriage of Sir Richard’s grandson to one of William Gascoigne’s daughters, who may actually have been betrothed at this time. Significantly enough, her sister, Anne, became the wife of William Ryther, the grandson of Lord Aldeburgh’s other sister, thus consolidating the connexion even further. Meanwhile, in keeping with family tradition, William gave his loyal support to Henry V, whom he accompanied to Normandy in, or shortly after, the summer of 1417, receiving a knighthood for his services in the field. By October 1419 he had taken at least one prisoner, an Italian fighting on the side of the French; and he was still abroad two months later when his father drew up his will. Such was Justice Gascoigne’s wealth that he was able to make generous provision not only for his wife (who received 500 marks cash and a large quantity of plate), but also for his three grand daughters, each of whom was promised £100. To their father, Sir William, went all the valuable livestock and agricultural equipment on the manor of Gawthorpe, as well as a large quantity of family plate, including two solid gold cups. He was also named first among the judge’s three executors, although since he may not have returned home until some time after the will was proved, on 23 Dec. 1419, most of the administration was probably undertaken by his uncle, Nicholas Gascoigne. His stepmother, Joan (who outlived him by several years), was assigned the manor of Wheldale, with its extensive appurtenances in the West Riding as her dower, but this still left him with an impressive and rich patrimony, which he entered at once. As well as the above-mentioned property at Gawthorpe, he took possession of the five other Yorkshire manors of Thorp Arch, Shipley, Cottingley, Burghwallis and Burton Leonard, as well as land in Narburn and houses in the city of York.3
Not surprisingly, in view of his wealth and the local influence enjoyed by his family, Sir William was returned by the electors of Yorkshire to the first Parliament of 1421. The session, which was attended by Henry V, began on 2 May and proved of short duration. While in London Sir William seized the opportunity to sue out a fine in the court of common pleas confirming him and his uncles in an estate near Leeds. The prospect of another expedition to France made him anxious to organize his affairs carefully. At the very end of May he drew up a brief will, naming his wife, Joan, and his two principal feoffees as executors. Since his elder son, William, was still a minor, his overriding concern was to place his estates in trust so that the Crown could not gain control of the property if he died during the campaign. Over the next three months his Yorkshire manors were settled as a jointure upon his wife; and some arrangement was evidently made for the support of their younger children until they came of age. Royal letters of protection were issued to Sir William at the beginning of June, and he probably crossed to Calais with the English army a few days later. It seems likely that he fell outside the walls of Meaux, for his death, on 28 Mar. 1422, occurred while the town was under siege.4
Notwithstanding the efforts made by Sir William to arrange matters so that the disputes and problems so common during minorities might be avoided, difficulties immediately began to arise. His widow, Joan, seems to have faced serious obstacles in recovering her jointure, and it was not until 1426 that the escheator of Yorkshire was ordered to observe Sir William’s original intentions and surrender the property to her. Even worse, his younger daughter, Joan (who married into the Louth family), and her brother, Henry, claimed that the trustees of the Gascoigne estates had knowingly deprived them of at least £500 in revenues which Sir William had set aside for their use. In 1437 they actually took the case to the court of Chancery, although the outcome is not recorded. William Gascoigne, the elder son and heir, came of age in 1426, not long after his clandestine marriage to Margaret Clarel of Aldwark. He represented Yorkshire in at least two Parliaments, and served on various commissions in the north.5
Ref Volumes: 1386-1421
Author: C.R.
Notes
1. DNB, vii. 294-6; Test. Ebor. i. 390-5, 402-3, 410; Yorks. Arch. Soc. Rec. Ser. xci. 186-8; VCH Yorks. (N. Riding), ii. 191; DKR, xliv. 612.
2. Somerville, Duchy, i. 523.
3. DNB, vii. 924-6; Somerville, i. 418; Test. Ebor. i. 390-5; DKR, xliv. 612; VCH Yorks. (E. Riding), iii. 105; W. Greenwood, Redmans of Levens and Harewood, 250.
4. C139/7/56; CP25(1)280/154/39, 41; Test. Ebor. i. 402-3; DKR, xliv. 627.
5. C1/9/256; CCR, 1422-9, p. 245; Yorks. Arch. Soc. Rec. Ser. xci. 186-8 in 1421.
     William died in 1423 or 1429.

     William Gascoigne was born circa 1427?. He was the son of William Gascoigne and Margaret Clarell.
William Gascoigne married Jane Nevil circa 1458. Their children were: Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe; Rev. Humphrey, John, Elizabeth, Joan, Agnes & Margaret.
     William died before 1463. He predeased his father c. 1461-3.

     William resided at Gawthorpe, Yorkshire. He was the son of Sir William Gascoigne and Alice Frognall.
William Gascoigne married Margaret Fitzwilliam.
William Gascoigne married Margaret Wright.

     William resided at Gawthorpe, Yorkshire. He was the son of William Gascoigne and Margaret Fitzwilliam.
William Gascoigne married Beatrix Tempest.

     William Gascoigne was the son of Sir William Gascoigne and Alice Frognall.
     William died See https://www.flodden1513ecomuseum.org/project/the-battle/40-william-gascoigne-at-flodden in 1513 in Flodden, Northumberland, England.

     William Gascoigne was born circa 1309. On Friday, 11 July 2014 10:44:18 UTC+1, Matt Tompkins wrote:
> Yesterday at the International Medieval Congress in Leeds I heard a paper entitled 'The Foundation of the Gascoigne Dynasty in 14th-Century England'. It was given by a PhD student at York whose thesis 'examines the genealogy of the Gascoigne family and its rise from obscurity in the Fourteenth Century to the loss of its principle landholding; Gawthorpe, in 1567'.
He said the family's ancestry cannot be reliably traced back before William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe (husband of Agnes Frank and father of William Gascoigne, the chief justice of the King's Bench), who he thought was born about 1309 and died, IIRC, in the 1380s. The earlier generations found in visitation pedigrees and other early modern sources derive ultimately (he said) from the genealogical claims of a 17th-century Gascoigne and cannot be substantiated from contemporary records.
> In fact he said he could discover no contemporary reference to any generation of the family before the lord chief justice's father. This surprised me a little - could a family of mid-14C Yorkshire gentry really have no traceable antecedents.
>John Watson [WatsonJohnM@gmail.com] replied 11 July 2014: I cannot find a single reference to any Gascoignes in Yorkshire before the mid-fourteenth century, and believe me I have looked long and hard. Wiliam Gascoigne who married Agnes Franke and was father of the celebrated Chief Justice is the first of the name to occur in contemporary documents. He had several grants of land in the 1350's and 60's from John de Lisle of Rougemont and Robert de Lisle his son. John de Lisle spent the greater part of his life (1318-55) fighting in the French wars, particularly in Gascony. Some time ago I thought it possible that the first William Gascoigne was a Gascon retainer of John de Lisle, or even possibly an illegitimate son, who he rewarded with grants of land in Yorkshire. This is just a theory with no proof. A man who in England was called William the Gascon, was no doubt called something completely different in Gascony.
Matt Tompkins replied: Very interesting that William Gascoigne pere received these grants from the Lisles, and that the Lisles had been active in Gascony. I wonder if the people at the Gascon Rolls Project would be able to cast any light on this.
As I recall from the paper yesterday, the 17th-century Gascoigne who wrote up the family legends believed it was the chief justice's grandfather who acquired Gawthorpe, by marriage to an heiress, Matilda Gawthorpe (whose hand was apparently bestowed on him by her grateful father after Gascoigne saved her from drowning by dragging her out of a fishpond by her hair). Whether the story is true, I wouldn't like to say, but it does show that in the 17th century the family believed that they had been local landowners in Yorkshire for at least a couple of generations before the chief justice.

This was followed up by Matt Tompkins with: It does sound as though the William Gascoigne who fathered the chief justice cannot have been a native of Yorkshire - either that or he had risen from the very lowest, unrecorded levels of Yorkshire society, which seems a little unlikely. It might be worth looking for his origins elsewhere in England - he might have been an immigrant from Gascony, but it is equally likely that his ancestors had been in England for several generations (I'll comment in a moment on the possibility that he was a Gascon retainer of John Lisle of Rougemont). There seems to have been a minor gentry or franklin family of Gascoignes holding of the Beauchamps in Compton Dundon in Somerset in the 1340s, for example (CIPM viii, 1336-47, pp. 322, 325). It might also be productive to look in the areas where the Lisles had estates - Cambs, Herts and Beds principally - or the Vavasours (see below for why).

I've found a couple of references to a William Gascoigne in mid-14C Yorkshire IPMs who is probably our man, and which cast some interesting light on his status and origins.

CIPM x (1352-61), p. 290, the assignment of dower in the manor of Harewode (which contained Gawthorpe) to Maud, widow of John de Lisle of Rougemont, on 6 April 1356, was made in the presence of William Fraunk of Alwoodley, Nicholas de Harewod, William Gascoigne and Robert de Ecclesley. These four would have been present as representatives of John's son and heir Robert de Lisle or of Maud herself, suggesting that William Gascoigne was a fairly senior Lisle adviser or retainer.

CIPM x (1352-61), p. 120, the proof of age of Mauger Vavasour, held just after Midsummer 1353, which reported that he had been born at Denton, near Harewood in Yorkshire, in June 1332; two of the witnesses were William Fraunk, aged 48 and more, who in 1332 had been a servant of Mauger's father, Thomas Vavasour of Denton, and William Gascoigne, aged 44 and more, who in 1332 was dwelling at Denton and had lands etc there. This is surely our man, the husband of Agnes Frank, and places him in Denton, not Gawthorpe (though not far from there), in 1332, aged 23 (and so born c. 1309). John de Lisle's career in Gascony did not begin until later in the 1330s, so it must be very unlikely that William Gascoigne was a Gascon retainer of his.
Anyway, Chris Bovis at York will be working on this problem full-time for the next couple of years, so hopefully everything will be revealed one day soon.. He was the son of William Gascoigne (of Gawthorpe) and Elizabeth Bolton.
William Gascoigne married Margaret Franke.

     William Gascoigne was also known as Gaskon in records.
William Gascoigne married Jane Gawthorp.

     Chief Justice William Gascoigne was born circa 1350 in Gawthorpe, Yorkshire. Chris Bovis who is working on a PH.D on this family, states, after much discussion on the Gen-Medieval mailing list:
The Vavasour reference gives the most information. His age (as well as they can) is given, which allows for an approximate birth date, and residence in the early 1330s. However, there is a reference in October 1345 which I believe is William Gascoigne senior engaging in mercantile violence. (CPR 1343-45, p. 496). That's the earliest reference I have, prior to the CIPM in the 1350s. I've never come across any evidence for a daughter called Margaret. Though that is interesting, thank you. I shall keep an eye out for evidence in the future. The Manston link, as far as I can tell, doesn't come from the Gascoigne side, but rather through Richard Gascoigne's wife, Beatrice Ellis. He was clearly considered a close member of the inner familial or friendship circle however. Richard mentions him, William I (c.1350-1419) bequeaths £40 in his will. I think some confusion has arisen in the antiquarian sources between Alice (?) and Robert Manston (Alfred's parents), and Robert Gascoigne and Ellen Manston (in the mid-late fifteenth century) as Ellen is often referred to as Alice (especially in Feet of Fines), and thus it seems likely that Foster's recording of the name may be mistaken. However, without any direct evidence on the surname of Alfred's mother, its speculation at best. Can I ask how you know Christopher, Robert and Richard were children of the first marriage? I've never heard of that, and it would explain why I've not found any references to them as Gascoignes, except from the will, which is sketchy. That would mean the only child Joan had with William was James Gascoigne I (of Cardington, Bedfordshire). From what I can tell Agnes was a daughter from the first marriage, to Elizabeth Mowbray.
Interestingly, and this is something I discussed in my paper, John appears to be the eldest son, who was sent to Oxford for a clerical career. William I was his second son, and eventually his heir. Richard and Nicholas were only gentry lawyers, it seems, rather than fully trained lawyers. Both served on the West Riding bench and from what I can tell it was in a 'local with a comprehension of law' capacity, given both of their careers in service. I think that, as well as Richard and Nicholas' disposable income following their father's death (the purchasing of Lasingcroft as a example) reinforces the idea that William Gascoigne Senior (d.1383) was a merchant who 'made it.' Thomas appears to have died young. He was the son of William Gascoigne and Margaret Franke.
Chief Justice William Gascoigne married Elizabeth Mowbray in 1369. She was the daughter and sole heiress of Sir Alexander Mowbray, of Kirtlington, in the county of York. William was Chief Justice being appointed by Henry IV in 1400.. He was deprived of his office by King Henry V in 1413. He remained a JP for the West Riding until his death.
Chief Justice William Gascoigne married secondly Joan Pickering (Greystock). She was the widow of Sir Ralph Greystoke, one of the Barons of the Exchequer. Other sources from Gen-Medieval mailng list state:
The second wife of Sir William Gascoigne, the Chief Justice, is named in the pedigrees as Joan, daughter of Sir William Pickering. Some time ago I pointed out here that there was no such person as Sir William Pickering alive at that time. Joan was actually the daughter of Sir James Pickering (ca. 1332-1398), and widow of Sir Christopher Moresby of Moresby, Cumberland who died before November 1391. By her first husband, she had three sons, Sir Christopher, Robert and Richard who are named as executors of her will in May 1426.
Agnes the wife of Robert Constable of Flamborough (ca. 1390-1441) was a daughter of Joan Pickering and she mentions "Robert Constable and my daughter his wife", in her will. Presumably she was a daughter of the judge and not of Christopher Moresby. By William Gascoigne she had a son James, ancestor of the Gascoignes of Cardington, Bedfordshire.
     Chief Justice William Gascoigne made a will dated 1401.
Wikipedia states: After the suppression of the rising in the north in 1405, Henry eagerly pressed the chief justice to pronounce sentence upon Lord Scrope, the Archbishop of York, and the Earl Marshal Thomas Mowbray, who had been implicated in the revolt. This he absolutely refused to do, asserting the right of the prisoners to be tried by their peers. Although both were later executed, the chief justice had no part in this. It has been doubted whether Gascoigne could have displayed such independence of action without prompt punishment or removal from office.
     Chief Justice William Gascoigne married thirdly Ann Lysley before 1419. She was the daughter of William Lysley.
     William died on 6 December 1419 in Harewood, Yorkshire. He was buried on 17 December 1419 in All Saints, Harewood, Yorkshire.
     His will was proved in 1419.

     Sir William Gascoigne was born between 1437 and 1451. He was the son of William Gascoigne and Jane Nevil.
Sir William Gascoigne married Lady Margaret Percy. Sir William Gascoigne was mentioned in a letter before 19 June 1479. To my right trusty and hartily beloved brother, William Gascoygne. Right trusty and right hartily beloved brother, I greet you well. And forasmuch as I understand that ye have put under arrest in the Castell of Knarsbrough one Thomas Ward, for suerty of peace ; he finding sufficient suertie to answere to the King our soveraigne Lord, I will that ye suffer him to be at his larg without longer enpresonment. Not failling hereof, as my trust is in you, and our Lord have you in his kepping. Written in my mannor of Lekinfeild, the xix day of June." Your Broder, Hen. Northumberland. (Dated Ante 19 June 1479.)
The date of this letter is prior to 20 Edw. IV. 1480 ; at which time William Gascoygne of Gawkthorpe, com. Ebor. esq. the brother-in-law of the writer, Henry fourth Earl of Northumberland, was already a knight. Sir William Gascoigne died 4 Mar. 2 Hen. VII. 1486 (Ing. virtut. officii, 11 /on. 4Hen. VII. Ebor.), leaving his son William under age. To Dame Joan Grutock, the executrix of his will, William Ryther acknowledges to have received (8 April, 9 Hen. VII.) ten marks, six from Sir William Ryther his father, and four from herself. Sir William Gascoigne, the son, was in his twentieth year, 4 Hen. VII. 1489, and then a knight. (Chartnl. No. 750.) One of the daughters is named in the will of her maternal uncle, the Earl of Northumberland, dated 17 July, 1485 : " Also I will that my neice Elizabeth Gascoigne have to her marriage c markes." (See abstract of the u.ii!, Cott. T"/). tt Gen. vol. ii. p. 65.) She married (in 1494) George Talboys, son and heir of Sir Robert Talboys, Lord of Kyme and Redisdale; the same who is spoken of as Mr Talbose in a subsequent letter. John Gascoigne and Ralph Gascoigne, esqn. were brothers to the Sir William Gascoigne who died in 1486 ; Dame Agnes Plump ton, and Dame Margaret Ward, his sisters. Of these we find mention in the present correspondence ; a pedigree (MS. Add. 5530, /. n .) adds Elizabeth and Joan, said to have died unmarried, and Humphrey who died young.
     William died See: https://thehistorydatabase.blog/author/thehistorydatabase/page/2/ for their tombs & notes on 4 March 1486/87 in Harewood, Yorkshire.

     William resided at Gawthorpe, Yorkshire.      
Sir William Gascoigne was a Member of Parliament.
Sir William Gascoigne married secondly Margaret Nevill.
Sir William Gascoigne married Alice Frognall.
Sir William Gascoigne married Maud Lynley. Sir William Gascoigne was born circa 1469. He was aged 18 or more in Nov 1487. He was the son of Sir William Gascoigne and Lady Margaret Percy.
     Sir William Gascoigne made a will dated 14 October 1528. He mentions his sons Marmaduke & John.
Sir William Gascoigne married secondly Bridget Unknown (Stokes) before 1546.
     Sir William Gascoigne made a will dated 28 January 1546. This will was proved 23 March 1552 - which? It mentions his wife Bridget but no children.
William Atherton &      William Gascoign de Cusworthe, kt. Re Messuage and cottage with lands in Harwood, Angrome, and Wardley..
     William died on 20 October 1551 in Frystone/Wheldale, Yorkshire. He was buried in Harewood.

     William Gascoigne (of Gawthorpe) was the son of William Gascoigne and Jane Gawthorp.
William Gascoigne (of Gawthorpe) married Elizabeth Bolton.

     Emily Gaskin married Augustus Edward Dempster, son of John Smith Dempster and Catherine Lee Wafford, on 11 August 1865 in St Marylebone, Westminster.

     James Gaskins married Eliza Keen, daughter of John Keen and Mary Mason, on 9 March 1869 in Southam, Warwickshire. Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Southam in the County of Warwick. James Gaskins, Widower of Full age, a Superintendent Police Officer residing in Southam, son of James Gaskins, Manufacturer, to Eliza Keen, Spinster of Full age, a Housekeeper residing in Southam, daughter of John Keen, Gardener. In the presence of Lawson Whitaker, Sarah Talbot, Walter Mawby and Martha Gaskins. Married by Temple Hillyard.
     James Gaskins and Eliza Keen were recorded on the 1871 census in the Police Station, Southam, Gloucestershire. James Gaskins, head, married, 56, Inspector of Police, born Naunton? and his wife Eliza, 45, born Lwer Slaughter.

      Alfred H Gasson was born on 30 August 1914.
Glenda Muriel Dobson married secondly Alfred H Gasson on 17 May 1958 in Victoria.

     Sarah Gathercole married William Cocksedge. There are probably other children of this marriage - they seem to have been baptised as Cock and died as Cocksedge.

     Elizabeth Gaught was born circa 1750 in Suffolk.
Elizabeth Gaught married Edward Cocksedge on 24 October 1776 in Bradfield Combust, Suffolk.
     Elizabeth died before 22 July 1832 in Bradfield St Clare, Suffolk. She was buried on 22 July 1832 in Bradfield St Clare.

     Unknown Gaultier was born. She was the daughter of Zachariah Gaultier,esq..
Unknown Gaultier married Thomas Wallen, son of Edward Wallen and Mary Armstrong, in 1750. Members of a Gaultier family are recorded as buried in St Andrews; Wright, Philip, Monumental Inscriptions of Jamaica. There are Gautier's in Dublin, see marriages in Falkner's Dublin Journal 9.1.1762.

      He was also King of Castile..
John of Gaunt Duke of Lancaster married Catherine Roelt, daughter of Pain de Roelt. John of Gaunt Duke of Lancaster was born in March 1340. He was the son of Edward, III, King of England.
     John died on 3 February 1399 aged 58.

     Jane Gaverigan married William Godolphin, son of Thomas Godolphin and Katherine Bonythan, on 11 December 1587 in St Mabyn, Cornwall. She was the daughter of Walter Gavrigan and brought Treveneage to the family.

     Nora Gavin or Power was also known as Nora Power in records.
Nora Gavin or Power married James Handy, son of Edward Handy and Mary Convey, in 1884.

     Margaret Gawgh or Haigh married Richard Rich in 1622 in St Peter, Sheffield, Yorkshire.

     Harriet Gawsell married James Cocksedge on 18 February 1834 in Walsham le Willows, Suffolk, England.

     Jane Gawthorp married William Gascoigne.

     Beatrice Gay was born in 1871 in Alberton, Victoria. She was the daughter of Matthew Gay & Catherine Osborne.
Beatrice Gay married John William Coulthard, son of Unknown Coulthard, in 1894 in Yarram, Victoria.
     Beatrice died in 1898 in Yarram, Victoria.

     Catherine Thirza Gay was born in 1875 in Yarram, Victoria, Australia.
Catherine Thirza Gay married David Turnbull MacKenzie, son of Donald Thomson MacKenzie and Mary Ann Hodgson, on 12 June 1897 in Holt's Matrimonial Agency, Melbourne, Victoria. His father's will made it clear that she or her children were not to inherit any McKenzie estate.. Catherine was granted a divorce from David Turnbull MacKenzie between 14 Feb- May 1908 in Victoria. David Turnbull McKenzie, Petitioner, against, Catherine Thirza McKenzie, respondent.
I David Turnbull McKenzie of Won Wron in the State of Victoria, Dairy Farmer, make oath and say as follows :-
1. That I am the above-named petitioner.
2. That I was on the 12th day of June 1897 lawfully married to the above-named Respondent CATHERINE THIRZA McKENZIE (then Catherine Thirza Gay) at Holts Matrimonial Agency, Queen Street, Melbourne in the State of Victoria by the Rev. Samuel Alexander Hamilton.
3. That I was born at Port Albert in the said State on the 29th day of September 1872 and am now of the age of thirty-five years and am now and have been for two years and upwards domiciled in the State of Victoria.
4. The said Respondent as I verily believe was born at North Devon in the said State and to the best of my knowledge information and belief is now of the age of thirty-two years and is now and has been for two years and upwards domiciled in the State of Victoria and except as aforesaid I am unable to swear from information belief or otherwise.
5. My condition of life before my said marriage was that of a bachelor and a farmer and farm labourer and my means of livelihood both before and after marriage were derived from my earnings as a farmer and farm labourer. The condition of life of the Respondent before marriage was that of a spinster employed at Moonee Ponds in the said State as a domestic servant and her means of livelihood before marriage were derived from her earnings as such and since the said marriage to the best of my knowledge information and belief her means of livelihood were derived from payments made by me and my father and from earnings as a domestic servant and waitress.
6. THAT there has been issue of the marriage, one child Daisy Victoria McKenzie who was born at the Women's Hospital Melbourne on the 21st day of July 1897 as I was informed by the said Respondent and verily believe.
7. Immediately after the said marriage I went to New South Wales without cohabiting with the Respondent and remained there at work at various places for about twelve months when I returned to my parents home at Won Wron aforesaid where I continued to reside and work until the month of July 1899. At intervals during the above period I sent part of my earnings to the Respondent but did not cohabit with her at all during such period.
8. In the month of July 1899 I met with a severe accident being picked up on the road in Yarram Yarram in the State aforesaid where my horse had fallen with me and to all appearances kicked my head in getting up - I lay for four weeks in Yarram Yarram aforesaid and was them taken to Melbourne hospital where the operation of trephining was performed by Dr. Fred Bird and I was able to return to my parents home in the month of October 1899 but was utterly unable to work or earn my living in any manner.
9. On the 30th day of November 1899 the Respondent proceeded against me in the Court of Petty Sessions at Carlton for the maintenance of herself and our child and the case was adjourned from time to time - chiefly in order to give me time to become well and able to earn my living and finally on the 12th day of June 1900 the case was withdrawn by the Respondents solicitor.
10. THAT whilst the said case was on during the months of January and March in 1900 I cohabited twice with the Respondent in Melbourne aforesaid during two of my visits to defend such case and after such month of March cohabitation finally ceased between us.
11. Immediately after the said case had been withdrawn, my father in order that I might have an opportunity of becoming well and strong, agreed to pay the Respondent through her solicitor the sum of ten shillings weekly or twelve months from the said month of June 1900 and such weekly sum was, I am informed and verily believe, duly paid up to the month of February 1901.
12. In the said month of February 1901 I, having become well, enlisted in the Scotch Horse to serve in South Africa and whilst in camp near Melbourne awaiting to embark, I was arrested on the complaint of the said Respondent for desertion and confined in the Melbourne Gaol for a short time and was only released when my father agreed to pay to the Respondent through her said solicitor the weekly sum of ten shillings for three years, terminating on the 15th day of February 1904 - and I am informed and verily believe that such payments were regularly made up to the said last mentioned date.
13. That early in the year 1903 the said Respondent came to Won Wron aforesaid to consult me about the adoption of the said child and I then asked her to come back and live with me informing her that I would provide a home for her when she refused and returned to Melbourne. A few weeks later I wrote to the Respondent again offering to provide a home for her and the child and received a reply a few days later in the Respondents own handwriting refusing my offer and saying she could never live with me. I again wrote about a week later making the same offer and urging the said Respondent to accept it and come live with me but did not receive any reply - thereto I am able to fix the date as in the year 1903 as it was some months before the last payment as aforesaid fell due in the month of February 1904.
14. In the year 1906 the Respondent again wrote to me and I proceeded to Melbourne to see her and again requested her to come and live with me and stated to her that as under an arrangement with my father I was now using part of his property and residing in the house built thereon and if she would come to me we could get along well and let all bygones be bygones but the Respondent again distinctly refused my said offer and took me to her Solicitor who examined me closely (and as I thought impertinently) as to my means and ability to carry out my desire.
15. In the month of May 1907 the respondent again came to see me and asked me to pay her something to keep the child and I replied "I will take you and the child if you will come" to which she answered "I will never live with you, I only want money to keep the child" and I said, "I will take the child and see that she is brought up properly". The Respondent did not reply but after striking me, ran away. I met her several times after, each time making the same offer which she invariably refused and asked for money for the child and finally informed me that she would ruin me and returned to Melbourne where she is employed at the United Service Club Hotel in Collins Street.
16. That on the 2nd day of July last, the Respondent issued a summons against me under the Marriage Act 1890 for the maintenance of the said child which said Summons was by consent of the parties struck out on the 31st July last on my promising to pay to the Respondent for the maintenance and support of the said child the sum of twelve shillings and sixpence a week during the months of October, November, December, January, February and March and the sum of ten shillings a week during the months of April, May, June, July, August and September in each and every year until such child should attain the age of sixteen years, such payments to be payable every four weeks in advance, the first to be made on the 24th day of July last, and on the 13th day of September 1907 I executed an agreement with the Respondent binding myself to carry out the aforesaid arrangement - and allowing her the sole custody and control of the said child and have since the said 24th day of July last, duly paid the monthly payments to the Respondent in pursuance of the said agreement.
17. That I have instituted these proceedings without any unnecessary delay.
18. That the above-named Respondent, Catherine Thirza McKenzie, has without just cause or excuse wilfully deserted me this deponent and without any such cause or excuse left me so continuously so deserted during three years and upwards namely from the month of February 1904 to the time of making this affidavit.
19. Save as aforesaid there have been no separation or separations and no deed or separation has ever been executed between me and the Respondent.
20. That I distinctly and unequivocally deny all collusion or connivance past or present directly or indirectly with the Respondent or with any person liable to be made Respondent.
Sworn at Yarram Yarram in the State of Victoria this 25th day of October 1907 before me, F F Hall. A Commissioner of the Supreme Court of the State of Victoria for taking Affidavits..